There were two Malleys in Carrownalecka in the 1857 Griffith:

1. Michael Malley
2. Owen Malley

There were four Malleys in the 1901 census in the areas of Ballinrobe that are connected to John Walsh:

1. Michael Malley on High Street in Ballinrobe. See Michael Malley below
2. Pat Malley at #3 Carrownalecka. See Pat Malley below
3. Mary O'Malley at number 24 Carrownalecka, age 61, widow, cannot read or write. Servant, Irish/English speaker. Mary Malley was born circa 1840
4. Sabina Malley, age 57, cannot read or write, housekeeper, widow, English/Irish speaker was listed at number 10 Old Chapel Road. Sabina was born circa 1844.

As expected with the common names of Michael and Mally. There were several Michael Mally having children in mid 1800s in Ballinrobe Parish. There was no place associated with some of the Michael Malleys. Some do not have any sponsors or names in common with the other Malleys in Carrownalecka or the family of John and Fanny Walsh.

The Michael Mally I was married to Catherine Gill and lived in Carrownalecka. Fanny Feeny Walsh was the sponcor to one of their children.

The 1857 Griffith lists Michael Malley at number 1 High Street Carrownalecka with "Offs (dilapidated) and yd". Subsequent Griffiths though "1880" Griffiths listed Michael Mally at number 1 High Street, Town of Ballinrobe, with a house and yard. This Michael Malley may or may not be the one married to Catherine Gill. At the birth of William, the son of Michael Mally and Catheine Gill, in 1855 they were listed on Glebe Street.

Michael "O'Mally" married Catherine Gill on August 2, 1853. The witnesses were Thomas Tierney and Biddy (can't read), Connile (?), this might be a place name. Based on an age of 20 at the time of her marriage, Catherine Gill was born circa 1833. Pat Gill was listed in the 1857 Griffith at number 23 Carrownalecka and was probably a relative of Catherine's.

Michael Mally and Catherine Gill had the following children:

1. William, of Michael and Cate O'Malley of Glebe Street, on May 3, 1855, sponsors, Pat Hanran and Cite Coleran. William must have died as another William was baptized in 1862.
2. Michael, born circa 1856 according to the 1901 census.

The records are missing between 1856 and 1861.

3. William John, of Michael Malley and Catherine Gill of Ballinrobe, was baptized on June 12, 1862, sponsors, Thomas Knuckle and Mary "Feerack".

   Notes:

   • Thomas Knuckle was listed in Carrownalecka in the 1857 Griffith.
   • Mary Feerick was the name of the wife of William Walsh.

4. Catherine, of Michael Mally and Catherine Gill was baptized on December 25, 1863, sponsors, Pat Gill and Mrs. David Feerick.

   Notes:

   • "Mrs David Feerick" was Bridget Gill.
   • David Feerick was listed in the 1857 Griffith at 3 High Street, Ballinrobe.

5. John, the son of "Pat" Mally and Catherine Gill was baptized on May 16, 1866, the sponsors were Fanny Walsh and John Coleran. I believe that "Pat" in this entry is a clerical entry. It was Michael Mally who was married to Catherine Gill.

   This was the only time that Fanny Walsh was listed in the Ballinrobe parish records as a godmother.

6. Mary, of Michael Mally and Catherine Gill of Ballinrobe, baptized November 9, 1868, sponsors: Pat Colleran and Ellen Feerack.

   Note: Pat and Kate Colleran were the parents of Bridget born in 1868. One of the sponsors for Bridget Colleran was Elizabeth Larner .

7. Anne, of Michael Mally and Catherine Gill of Ballinrobe, was baptized on July 30, 1869. The sponsors were Thomas Knuckle and Ellen Feerick.
8. John, of Michael Malley and Catherine Gill, of Ballinrobe was baptized on May 24, 1871 . The sponsors were Bridget Mea and Pat Malley.

   Bridget Mea was the sponsor for Fanny Walsh in 1875. There were two Bridget Meas in the parish. One was born Bridget Walsh and the other was born Bridget Mally. This is most likely Bridget Mally Mea.

   Pat Malley was the son of Owen Malley. See below.

9. Walter, of Michael Mally and Kate Gill, sponsors Pat Cullerane and Honor Gallagher, July 27, 1872.

   Honor Gallagher was the wife of Pat Malley.

10. Julia, of Michael Mally and Catherine Gill "High Street" was baptized on November 12, 1874, I cant read the sponsors, the writing is too faded .
11. Bridget of Michael Malley and Catherine Gill on December 20, 1876, sponsors: Michael Gill and Mary Burk.
12. Arthur Joseph, of Michael Mally and Cate Gill, on January 8, 1879, sponsors were Pat Mally and Mary Burke.

    Catherine Gill was at least 44-46 years old when Arthur was born.

13. John, according to the census was born in 1889. The parish records that are available to me only go to the beginning of 1881.

The records show that Michael Mally was closely associated with Pat Mally.

• Pat Malley was a sponsor of one of Michael Mally's children.
• Honor Gallagher, the wife of Pat Malley, was a sponsor for another of Michael Malley's children.
• Michael Malley was the sponsor of one of Pat Malley's children. See Pat Malley, below.

All things considered, I am faily sure that Michael Malley was the brother of Pat Malley and the son of Owen Malley.

Michael Malley in the 1901 Census in Ballinrobe

Michel Malley was listed in the 1901 census on High Street in Ballinrobe as follows:

• Michael head of household, age 70, carter
• Catherine, his wife, age 60, house keeper
• Michael, son, age 45, miller
• Walter, son, age 30, carter
• Julia, daughter, age 26, house keeper
• Joseph, son, age 12, school boy

Everyone in this household is listed as able to read and write and as Irish/English speakers, except, John, who was listed as only able to read and as an English speaker only.

There are some problems with the census:

• This information indicates that Michael Mally was born circa 1831and that Catherine was born circa 1841. In order to be married by 1853 Catherine Gill had to have been born no later than 1833.
• Catherine Gill was still alive in 1879 when her son, Author, was baptized.

  If Catherine was born in 1841 and John was born circa 1889. Catherine had to have been 48 years old when John was born. If she was born in 1833, she would have been 56 when John was born.

• Michael Mally was the sponsor with Mary Horan, of Mary, the daughter of Luke O' Mally and Catherine on July 24, 1861. There were a lot of other children born to Luke and Catherine Mally.
• Michael Mally was the sponsor with Bridget Feerick to Michael of Pat "Naven" (?), and Bridget do alias Faraher, on December 16, 1863
• Michael Malley and Margaret Jennings were the sponsors for Margaret, of Pat Daly and Bridget Burke, who was baptized on March 9, 1865.
• Michael Malley was the sponsor in 1865 with Bridget Feerick of Peggy the daughter of Thomas Pl---- and Mary ---- of "Carrocluker". Bridget Feerick was most likely, Bridget Gill Feerick, the wife of David Feerick.
• Michael Mally was the sponsor of Owen, of Pat Malley and "Honor" Gallagher, on February 26, 1867
• Michael Malley and Mary (?) Sheridan were the sponsors of Michael Mylett, the son of Michael Mylett and Bridget Burke, on September 7, 1867.
• Michael Malley was the sponsor with Mary Galagher, of Hugh, of James Tierney and Sarah Highland of Ballinrobe, on March 9, 1871.
• Michael Malley was the sponcor with Bridget Malley, of John of James Tierney and Sarah Hyland, July 3, 1872
• Michael Mally was the sponsor with Cath Mally of James, the son of Luke Malley and Bridget Conner (?), December 1, 1878. There is a note in the margin "James Mally was married 23rd September, 1908 Brooklyn (can't read), to Eleanor Jennings Robeen born (can't read)".

The two Michaels in italics are most likely to be "himself".

John Malley was the sponsor of John Walsh and Fanny Feeny's daughter, Ellen, in 1877.

As expected given the common names John and Malley, there was more than one John Malley in the parish. The records show that there were three John Malleys who had children.

John Mally married Sabina Walsh on April 11, 1877, witnesses, Ed Malley and Catherine Walsh.

They had:

1. Anthony of John Mally and Sabina Walsh, baptized on April 30, 1878, sponsors: Anthony Mally and Catherine Walsh.
2. Bridget of John Mally and Sabina Walsh, sponsors James Ga---- and Mary Monahan, September 27, 1879.

John Malley As A Godfather

John Malley was a sponsor for the following children:

1. With Mary Murphy of Pat of Luke Mally and Bridget Murphy, "Cloonkeery", December 30, 1870.
2. With Mary Hughs of Pat of Pat Mally and Mary Mally, April 5, 1872. Note: Mary Hughs was the sponsor of John and Fanny Walsh's son, Joseph in 1873.
3. With Sally Murphy of John of Luke Malley and Bridget Murphy, March 29, 1876
4. With Bridget Mally of Mary of Pat and Mary Mally, August 19, 1876
5. With Cath Grennell (?) of Honor of Michael Hamrogue and Bridget Mally, May 6, 1877
6. With Mary Lardner, to Ellen Walsh, the daughter of John Walsh and Fanny Feeney in 1877
7. With Bridget Reilly of Michael, the son of Pat Walsh and Catherine Reilly, on November 22, 1882.
8. With Ellen O'Donnell of Pat, the son of John and Kate Murphy, on March 25, 1884.

Again, given that there was more than one John Malley in the parish, it is impossible to know if the sponsor of Michael Walsh and Pat Murphy were "himself".

According to the 1901 census, Pat Malley was born circa 1836. This may, however, be in error. See the census below.

Pat Malley married Honor Gallagher, on February 25, 1854. The witnesses were Michael Hyland and Winifred Gallagher. There is a notation in the margin: "Ballinrobe"

There are a lot of children listed in the parish records for Pat Mally and Honor (Mary) Malley. Sometimes there is a specific notation that the mother was Honor Gallagher. Sometimes there was no notation. Using a combination of the parish records, the civil records and the census, Pat Malley and Honor (Mary) Gallagher had:

1. "Wl" (William) of Patt Maly and Honor Gallagher, the sponsors are almost completely illigible, one could be "Wl" Mally, March 29, 1855.

Unfornuately the records are missing from 1856 to 1861. They most certainly had children during this period.

2. Pat of Pat Mally and Honor Galagher, sponsors, Owen Mally and Peggy Highland, High Street, October 17, 1862

3. Mary, of Pat Malley and Mary (with "Honor" written above) Gallagher, on February 20, 1865 sponsors were Owen Mally and Peggy Hyland. According to the civil record Pat Malley was a smith.

   Peggy Walsh Hyland was the wife of Pat Hyland.

4. Owen, of Pat Malley and Mary Gallagher, February 26, 1867, sponsors were Michael Malley and Mary Brett. The civil record lists Pat Maley as a smith "Chapple" Road.
5. Margaret, of Pat Malley and Honor Gallagher of Ballinrobe, September (?) 1869, sponsors Denis Malley and Sally Hyland. According to the civil birth registration, Margaret, the daughter of Patrick Malley, blacksmith of Chapel Road, Ballinrobe, and Honor Gallagher, was born on June 13, 1869.
6. Honor, of Pat Malley and Mary Malley, on February 4, 1870, sponsors Bridget Malley and Martin Fitzpatrick. No place listed.
7. John of Pat Malley and Honor Gallagher on September 1, 1871, sponsors Denis Malley and Mary Brett, Ballinrobe.
8. Patt, of Patt Malley and Mary Malley, April 5, 1872, sponsors John Malley and Mary Hughs, no place listed. Patrick was listed in the 1901 census as age 27 and single.

   Mary Hughs was the godmother of Joseph Walsh, the son of John and Fanny Walsh, in 1873.

9. Catherine, of Pat Malley and Mary Malley, May 9, 1874, sponsors Patt Rush (could be Burke) and Bridget Walsh, no place.
10. Mary Kate, of Pat Malley and Honor Gallagher, on October 25, 1876, Sponsors, Pat Mally and Mary Feerick.
11. Peter, born circa 1879, listed in the 1901 census.I could not find the baptism of Peter in the parish records.
12. Margaret, of Pat and Mary Malley, December 28,1880, sponsors, John Malley and Ellen Malley, no place listed.

    Was this "Mary" listed in the 1901 census?

These baptismal records show that, Pat Malley was related to Michael Malley, Denis Malley, Owen Malley, John Malley and Mary Hughs.

Pat Malley in the 1901 Census

The 1901 census lists the family of Pat Mally at number 3 Carrownalecka as follows:

• Pat head of household, age 65, read and write, smith, married, Irish/English speaker
• His wife, Honor, age 55, housekeeper, Irish/English speaker
• Patrick, son, age 29, smith, not married
• Owen, son, age 27, smith, not married
• Peter, son, age 22, smith, not married
Mary, daughter, age 20, not married, "general housekeeper"

All the children were Irish/English speakers. There was also a lodger, Mary Hacket, age 12, read and write, English only, occupation, servant.

This information indicates that Patrick senior was born circa 1836, his wife, circa 1846, Patrick junior circa 1872, Owen, circa, 1874, Peter, circa 1879, Mary circa 1881.

There are some minor problems with the census information:

• How could Pat and Honor have been born in 1836 and 1846 and married in 1854. This would mean that Mary (Honor) was only eight years old.

• Assuming that they were born earlier, there is the questions of the children born in 1879 and 1881. Assuming that Honor was at least 20 at the time of her marriage, it gives her an estimated birth year of 1834. This means she was 47 when Mary was born circa 1881.

  The census in general shows a signifigant number of women who claim to have had children well into their late forties and early fifties.

According to his death record in 1870, Owen Malley, a smith who ran a forge on High Street Ballinrobe, was born circa 1795.

There are three listings for Owen Malley in the Griffith including the forge, a dwelling and acreage. Owen Malley was replaced at all three listings at the same time by Pat Malley:

1. The 1857 through 1867 Griffith listed Owen Mally at numbers 6 High Street, Carrownalecka, Town of Ballinrobe renting a forge. In the 1880 ledger Owen had been replaced by Patrick Malley.
2. The 1857 through 1867 ledger listed Owen Malley at number 42 Chapel Road, Carrownalecka, Town of Ballinrobe renting a house, yard and office. In the 1880 ledger Owen had been replaced by Patrick Malley.
3. The 1861 through 1867 Griffiths shows Owen Malley at number 20 Carrownalecka sharing 8 acres of land with Edward McCann. In the 1880 ledger Owen had been replaced by Patrick Malley.

Owen Mally, age 75, married, blacksmith, High Street, died on December 28, 1870 of consumption. The death was reported by Pat Malley who was listed as present at the death. If the age at death was correct it means that Owen was born in 1795.

The parish records show that Owen Mally and Margaret had :

1. Owen, of Owen and Margaret O'Malley, Ballinrobe, April 26, 1852, sponsors, Nicholas Walsh and Mrs. Walsh.
2. Thomas, of Owen and Margaret Mally, September 7, 1855, sponsors were Pat Hyland and Kate Laffey. Pat Hyland was the husband of Margaret (Peggy Walsh).

1. Michael born circa 1831
2. Pat born circa 1836
3. John, date of birth unknown.
4. Denis Mally, date of birth unknown
5. Owen baptized in April of 1852
6. Thomas baptized in September 1855

The above records show a close association between the Malleys in Carrownaleck and gives a good example of how relative were frequently the sponsors at baptisms.

What it does not show clearly is how the Malleys were related to John Walsh and Fanny Feeney.

There are the following associations with John and Fanny in particular and the Walshes in general:

• Fanny Walsh was the sponsor of John, the son of Pat Mally and Catherine Gill, in 1866
• John Mally was married to Sabina Walsh. However, I have no idea who Sabina Walsh was.
• Bridget Mea was the sponsor for:
  • John, the son of Michael Mally and Catherine Gill, in 1871
  • Fanny, the daughter of John Walsh and Fanny Feeney, in 1875.
• Peggy Walsh Hyland was the sponsor for Mary, the daughter of of Pat Malley and "Mary" Gallegher, in 1865. I do not know how Peggy Walsh Hyland might have been related to John Walsh
• Mary Hughs was the sponsor for:
  • Pat the son of Pat Mally and "Mary" Mally, in 1872. I know Patt was the son of Pat Malley and Honor Gallagher because he was listed with them in the 1901 census.
  • Joseph, the son of John Walsh and Fanney Feeney, in 1873.
• Bridget Walsh was the sponsor for Catherine, the daughter of Pat and Mary Mally in 1874. There was no place listed with this entry, so I do not know if this is the right Pat Mally and if this Bridget Walsh is really relevant.
• Nicholas Walsh and Mrs Walsh were the sponsors for Owen, the son of Owen and Margaret Mally in 1852.
• Pat Hyland, the husband of Peggy Walsh, was the sponsor for Thomas, the son of Owen and Margaret Mally in 1855.

The most likely explanation of the relationship between John and Fanny Walsh and the Mally brothers is that either John Walsh or Fanney Feeney were cousins of the Mallys.

This is only a theory and could change with further research.

In November 2005 Kevin Pemrick emailed:

My grandparents immigrated from Claremorris area in 1908. My grandfather was John Hamrogue from Seefin parish of Crossboyne and my grandmother was Delia Slattery from Purrauns parish of Kilcommon and Robeen. I came across two things on your site. John Malley listed as godparent along with Cath Grennell to Honor daughter of Michael Hamrogue and Bridget Malley 5/6/1877

...marriage of Martin Rafferty & Mary Morahan 7/31/1863, witnesses John Costello and BRIDGET HAMBROYE, I think this is Hambrogue