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The Land Family in All Saints Church, Wakefield

My first certain Land ancestor was John Land, the father of John Land baptized in 1734 in Wakefield All Saints who in turn was the father of Charles Land baptized in All Saints, Wakefield in 1767. I can demonstrate with absolute certainty that Charles Land was my direct line ancestor. Determining his father and grandfather is a bit more problematic.

The records for All Saints include two John Lands born at the appropriate time to be the father of Charles Land:

  1. John, the son of Samuel Land of Woodside, baptized on March 9, 1729/30
  2. John, the son of John Land of "Westg", baptized on May 3, 1734.

The records are very vague and there were two (or more) John Lands having children baptized in All Saints parish between 1759 and 1774 - the period that encompasses the birth of Charles Land in 1767.

The Wakefield All Saints records in the mid to late 1700s contain little information - mostly just names and dates. However, with the use of a bit of scant information on a few records, naming patterns, dates of birth*, and information in subsequent records I was able to sort the Lands into two major branches. By determining who is NOT my family I believe I have determined that the branch of the Land family who were connected with Westgate is my family. There are still quite a number of stragglers - future research may determine where they belong.

*Children baptized very close together were unlikely be from the same parents.


John Land Marriages Wakefield All Saints

There were two marriages for John Land in the correct time period:

  1. John Land of this Parish to Mary "Tunstel" (as written by the clerk of the Parish) by banns, 7 October 1754. Both signed their names. Witnesses William Naylor and Sam. Richardson (Sam signed a lot of the records during this period.) Her "signature" looks more like TUNSTALL

  2. John Land of the parish to Sarah Myers of the parish, 12 December 1759. He signed. She make her mark. Witnesses, James Land and Joseph MIERS. By banns.


  1. The first signature is from John Land's 1754 marriage to Mary Tunstall. There were no children from this marriage recorded in Wakefield All Saints.

    "Mary w of John Land" died April 23, 1756.

    Note: It cannot be absolutly certain that this death was Mary Tusndall Land. John Land "senior's" wife was Martha. It may have been the wife of John Land baptized in 1734. However, given the dates it seems more likely that it was Mary Tusndall.

  2. The second signature is from the marriage of John Land to Sarah Myers in 1759. John and Sarah had multiple children baptized in Wakefield All Saints. They subsequently moved to Weston.

    Note: John Land would have been 29 years old at the marriage to Sarah Myers - another reason to suggest it was a second marriage.

    See children of John Land below.

Conclusion:

The two marriages listed could represent a first marriage for John Land (to Mary Tunstall). The death of Mary Tunsdall Land. Then a second marriage of John Land (to Sarah Myers).

The marriage of my John Land to unknown most likely occurred in another parish.

Two possibilities are:

  1. John Land of Outwood in the Parish of Wakefield and Eleanor Thorp of the Parish by license 14th December 1758. He signed. She made her mark. Methley, St Oswald 1758.

    They did NOT have children baptized in Methley Parish.

    In January 2016 Margaret wrote:

    I think Eleanor Thorp who married John Land 1758 was a widow. John Thorp married Eleanor Gothard 12 Nov 1749 Methley. Then there is a burial for John Thorp 15 Oct 1757. There is also a burial in Methley for Eleanor Land 29 Oct 1790 age 70. There is a baptism for Ellenor daughter John and Ellenor Gotherd 18 Oct 1720. John and Ellen Thorp had a son John 24 Aug 1753 who married Ann Clegg 4 Feb 1789 and his burial age 42 13 Feb 1795. There is a John Land in Methley as he appears to have been a witness to 5 marriages between 1761 and 1773. There is a burial for Sarah wife of Samuel Land of Wakefield Parish on 28 May 1771 age 79 and a burial for Samuel Land of Wakefield Parish 24 May 1775 age 82. A burial 2 Oct 1779 of John Land, a roper age 52, could this be Eleanor's husband and is he related to Samuel and Sarah? I have Methley on a pdf so could search names as my father was born there."

    Notes:

    PROS:

    • John Land (1734) was from Wakefield Parish.It is the right time frame for the marriage of John Land (1734)
    • It cannot be John Land married to Sarah Myers, later moved to Weston. Among other things the signature is completely different.
    • Children were born in the parish in the right time frame.
    • Charles Land, the son of John Land (1734) moved to Leeds before 1797. Eleanor Land was buried in Leeds in 1781. There is no age given at this death but Eleanor was an adult as indicated by the lack of qualifying information. Eleanor was a very unusual name in the Yorkshire records for the time. In fact the marriage in Methley and death in Leeds are the only two records I can find for the name, Eleanor Land, connected with either Leeds or Wakefield in the correct time frame. However, the death of a wife of any John Land could have been listed as the "widow Land" if she died after John Land.

    CONS:

    • Outwood is a village north of the city of Wakefield. Outwood and Woodside are very near each other or may even be the same as each other. Methley is a village and Parish north west of Wakefield. Woodside is the area that John Land 1730 (married to Sarah Myers) was connected to by virtue of his birth and his sibling's places of residence. My Lands were from Alverthrope/Thorns/Westgate not Outwood/Woodside. On the other hand, I have found plenty of marriages where one or both spouses are said to be from a given place and in fact the marriage is the only record that occured in that given place.
    • Eleanor was not a name that appears in later records for Lands.
    • There does appear to have been three John Lands in Wakefield having children between 1759 and 1774.
    • They may not have had children baptized in Wakefield.

  2. John Land to Sarah Tollson Batley Parish February 26 1754.

    They did NOT have children baptized in Batley parish. There are a smattering of Land records in Batley parish at the time - mostly marriages and deaths which could indicate a family of nonconformists.


The Children of the John Lands Baptized Between 1761 and 1774 All Saints, Wakefield

The baptismal records in Wakefield at the time in question are rather vague and no mothers were listed. Using later records I have determined the spouse of one of the John Land - which was Sarah Myers. However, I do not know the name of the spouse of the other John Land (maybe more that one other).

Connecting information to Sarah Myers makes in possible to determine to some extent who were NOT the parents of Charles Land (and several other children born between 1761 and 1774).

There were 18 children connected with the John Lands in Wakefield between 1761 and 1774. The list of these children was taken from the baptismal and burial records in All Saints Parish, Wakefield and the parish of Weston.

Unfortunately, neither the mother's name nor the father's occupation was listed for the Wakefield records . The "residence" was listed for only 10 times. In 8 instances "W" was entered. "W" could have had multiple meanings: Woodside, Wrenthorpe, Westgate. Unfortunately including the two places the John Lands lived - Woodside and Westgate.

John Land (who married Sarah Myers) was from Woodside, an area north of Wakefield proper. It was a rural area. Several of their children were listed as "farmers" after the family moved to Weston.

The other John Land had connections to Westgate, Alverthrop and Thorns - Alverthorpe with Thornes was an ancient township which included Westgate Common.

The baptisms for children of "John Land" appropriately start shortly after the marriages of John Land to Sarah Myers in 1759 and, it should be mentioned, of John Land to Eleanor Thorp in 1758.

The records for the children of John Land in Wakefield All Saints and in Weston between 1761 and 1774 were:

  1. Thomas of John Land on May 2, 1761 (no other information). I do not know what happened to Thomas. There was a marriage in 1786. But there were four Thomas born in the parish between 1748 and 1761.
  2. Jno of John Land on March 28, 1762 (no other information).
    Burial: John was most likely the son of John of "W" buried January 1, 1765.
    Note: Thomas and Jno were born too close together to be siblings.
    Indicating that there were already TWO John Lands having children by 1762.
  3. Joseph** or * of John Land of "W", baptized on March 26, 1763.
  4. Joseph* or **, of John Land of "W", on August 11, 1764.
    The births are fairly close and most likely these two Josephs were not siblings. One of these Josephs was the child of Sarah Meyers.
    Notes for the Joseph Lands born 1763 & 1764:
    • One of the Joseph Lands married Mary Young on April 14, 1788 in Weston. He was listed as a farmer. They both signed. Philemon Land was a witness. They had several children born in Weston: Sarah, 1789, John 1792, Thomas 1794, Philemon 1797 and James 1800 (IGI). They were listed in the 1841 census in Weston of independent means. Joseph Land of Gargrave Weston died December 31, 1845 age 82.
    • One or the other of these "W"s must mean Westgate.
    • I have not found the second Joseph in later records.
  5. William✟ the son of John Land, buried December 20, 1764 (No other notation).
    Notes: His baptism was not listed in the BT between 1759 and 1764.
    1. There were frequent records of this type when a child died very shortly after birth
    2. The baptism was either not recorded in the original register or not transcribed to the BT
    3. This could NOT be William the son of John Land born in 1747. He married and had children.
  6. Philomon Land** (1765-)
    Philemon of John Land of "W", on January 19, 1765. (mother, Sarah Meyers, as shown by later records)
    Marriage: Philemon Land, wine merchant, married Ruth Chadwick, spinster, 23 April, 1789, Leeds St Peters. Both signed.
    See Philomen Land under Queen Street Chapel, Leeds
    Note He named his first son Philemon Meyer Land. He was clearly the son of Sarah Meyer.
  7. Henry, of John Land of Thornes, on May 12, 1765.
    Note: Henry is an unusual name. This is the first known use of the name in the Land family. A Henry was born to A Henry was born to James and Hannah Land in 1792. I have no yet determined the genealogy of James Land. No further record for Henry born 1765 or 1769. NO death record between 1765 and 1769.
  8. Ruth** of John Land of "W", on November 8, 1766. (mother, Sarah Meyers, as shown by later records)
    Marriage: Ruth Land spinster, married Thomas Skirrow, farmer, May 19, 1788 in Weston parish Both Signed. Philemen Land witness.
  9. Charles Land*★ (1767-) and Elizabeth Dunford★
    Charles, of John Land of "W" on January 1, 1767.
    Notes:
    • Charles was my direct line ancestor.
    • NOT the son of John Land and Sarah Myers as indicated by subsequent records
    • He married Elizabeth Dunford in WAS on December 25, 1787. See Charles Land
    • This is the first record of the name Charles in the Land family. Charles was an unusual name at the time. Since the name "Charles Lewis Land" was used by subsequent generations of Charles Lands, it is possible that this Charles was also named Charles Lewis Land and that his mother's maiden name was Lewis. Using surnames as middle names was a common practice in Yorkshire and with the Land family in particular.
    • The "W" is not a helpful designation in determining who this John Land was.
    • He could not have been the same John of "W" who was the father of Ruth. The births are too close together. Plus Ruth shows up with the Lands in Weston and Charles remained longer in Wakefield before moving to Leeds
  10. Mercy** of John Land of "W", on January 7, 1769. (mother, Sarah Meyers, as shown by later records)
    Marriage: Mercy married Joseph Farmer in Weston on June 9, 1794. Both signed.
  11. Henry* of John Land of "W", on September 30, 1769.
    Note: See notes on Henry above. No further record.
  12. John✟ of John Land, on October 27, 1770 (no other notation).
    Death: John, the son of John Land, was buried April 30, 1773 (no other notation).
  13. John*, of John Land of "Alv" (Alverthorpe) on January 6, 1770/71.
    Marriage and Children: He has several connections to Charles Land. He had children in New Zion Chruch, Wakefield. See John Land of Alverthrope under The Lands in New Zion Church Wakefield in the late 1700s, below. He is a potential sibling of Charles Land.
  14. Sarah of John Land November 30, 1771 (no other notation). One of the two Sarah baptized in Wakefield All Saints (1771 & 1774) was the daughter of Sarah Meyers as indicated by later records. Note: This birth is TOO close to John January 1770/71 and to Christopher April 1772, suggesting three John Lands in Wakefield at the time.
  15. Christopher✟* the son of John Land, on April 18, 1772 (no other notation). Possibly the son of Sarah who had a brother named Christopher - an unusual name.
    Death: Christopher, the son of John Land, was buried on April 23, 1773 (no other notation).
  16. Catherine Land and William Almgill
    Birth: Catherine , the daughter of John Land, on December 25, 1773 (no other notation).
    More on Catherine Land: Catherine married in Wakefield and then moved to Leeds
    Marriage: Catherine Land of the parish of Wakefield married William Almgill of the parish of Leeds, by banns. Both signed. 6 May 1799 in Wakefield All Saints (WASPR)
    Children:
    1. Mary Land Almgill of William Almgill, Petersgate, 30 June 1800 St Peters, Leeds. Note This was their presumed first child. Why was she named "Mary Land"?
    2. Robert 16 May 1802 of William Almgill, Petergate, St Peters, Leeds
      Marriage: Robert Almgill, hairdresser, Mary Mitchell, spinster, 05 May 1822, by banns both of the parish, both signed. St Peters Leeds
    Notes:
    • William Almgill married Elizabeth Gledill 03 April 1793 in St Peters Leeds. William of Willaim Almgill baptized 23 Aug 1795 St Peters Leeds. William Almgill, hairdresser married Elizabeth Rowland in Leeds St Peters December 29, 1805.
    • No other children born to William and Catherine Almgill in either St Peter's Leeds, New Zion Wakefield or Queen Street Chapel Leeds
    • No Almgill in Leeds in the 1841 census
    • No Almgill in Leeds in the 1851 census
  17. Sarah of John Land on February 26, 1774 (no other notation). One of the Sarah Lands married John Forrest in Weston in 1799 John Forrest of Weston to Sarah Land of the parish by license. He signed. She x'ed. witness Jospeh Land. 10 April 1799 They were listed in the 1841 census in Weston, both age 60 of independent means.
  18. James**, the son of John, was baptized in Weston in 1775 (IGI).
    Note: Subsequent records show that James was the son of John Land and Sarah Meyers of "W" in Wakefield who lated moved to Weston. He married Elizabeth Dixon in Adele Parish in 1801. He was listed as a farmer from Weston parish. He had children in Weston: John 1802, James 1804, Sarah 1806, Joseph 1808 James 1811 (IGI), Thomas of James and Elizabeth Land, Askwith farmer September 1813.

All of the above records were taken from the Wakefield Parish records except where noted.

Notes on the parents of the 18 Land children baptized between 1761 and 1775

  • I believe that there were at least two (perhaps three or four) John Lands having children in WAS between 1761 and 1774:
    1. John Land (listed in the several of the records as being from "W") married Sarah Meyers in Wakefield All Saints on December 12, 1759. Subsequent records show that they moved to the parish of Weston no later than 1775. Their known children (whose names are indicated with** above) were Philomon (1765), Ruth (1766), Mercy (1769) and James (1775). John Land and Sarah Meyers were also the parents of one of the Josephs and one of the Sarahs. It is possible that they were also the parents of one of the Johns and Christopher. All of the records for Land in Weston are connected to this family.
    2. John Land who was listed from "W" and who was NOT the husband of Sarah Meyers was the father of:
      1. One of the Joseph of John Land of "W" baptized in either 1763 or 1764. The births are too close together to be siblings. The other Joseph was the son of John Land and Sarah Meyers.
      2. Charles of John Land of W baptized in January 1767. I believe for several reasons that he was NOT the son of Sarah Meyers. He was born too close to Ruth, a known daughter of Sarah Myers. He did not move to Weston but stayed in Wakefield when the family of Sarah Myers Land moved. He later moved to Leeds.
      3. Henry of John Land of "W" baptized in 1769 does not show up in further records. His baptism was too close to Mercy's baptism to be a child of Sarah Meyer.
      4. Catherine of John Land December 1773 was born too close to Sarah to have been siblings. She is a possible sibling of Charles Land. She married and moved to Leeds.
    3. John Land listed from Alv and Thornes could have been: The same John Land designated "W" at the baptism of Charles Land in 1767. Alverthorpe with Thornes and Westgate Common have been difficult for me to straighten out. "Alverthorpe and Thornes" was an ancient township that included Westgate Commons. At the period in question the records for Alverthorpe/Thorns/Westgate were kept in Wakefield All Saints. Charles Land baptized in 1767 "W" and John Land baptized 1770 "Alverthorpe" (both the sons of John Land) ended up in the same small independent congregation of New Zion. The baptisms for the children of John Land Alverthorp/Thorns were:
      1. Henry of John Land of Thornes in 1765. He does not show up in subsequent records.
      2. John of John Land of Alverthorpe in 1770.
      3. Note: The children of John Land (1770 Alverthorp) were baptized in New Zion Chapel Wakefield between 1793 and 1801 James (1789) son of Charles Land (1767 son of John Land) was baptized in New Zion. Also baptized in New Zion between 1811 and 1833 were children of William Land
    I think the association with the New Zion Chapel is significant.
  • It would have been impossible for Sarah Meyers to have had 18 children in 13 years. Some of the baptisms are too close together. For this and other reasons there had to have been at least one other mother of the children of John Land.
  • "W" was not a designation in earlier records. The Lands in the previous generation were from Woodside and Westgate both of which start with "W". Later Lands lived in Wrenthorpe which could also be designated with a "W". There may have been a Woodside in Wrenthrope as the Google map shows a Woodside Lane in Wrenthorpe. "Westgate" was the most populated part of the city as shown by the 1790 map. The Lands who moved to Weston show up in Askwith (a village in the parish of Weston) in the later records. See below.

The Wives of the John Lands

There were only two marriages listed in Wakefield All Saints for John Land in the general time frame.

  1. John Land to Mary Tunstal on October 7, 1754 in Wakefield All Saints.

    NO children of John Land were baptized in Wakefield Parish between this marriage and the subsequent marriage in 1759.

    "Mary w of John Land" was buried in Wakefield April 23, 1756.

  2. John Land to Sarah Meyers in 1759. It is possible to determine based on Sarah's siblings and on the later records in Weston who several of the children of Sarah Meyers were. See above

The signatures of John Land on both these marriage look similar. See above.

John Land the father of Charles Land must have been married in another parish.

Who was the mother of Charles Land?

I am quite certain that Sarah Meyers was NOT the mother of Charles Land.

Subsequent members of this branch of the Land family used compound names that were the full names of an ancestor i.e. James Dunford Land and Charles Lewis Land. The birth of Charles Land in 1767 was the first time the name, Charles, was used b the Land family in Yorkshire. The name Charles Lewis Land was used for several subsequent generations. It is possible that Charles Land was named for his maternal grandfather, Charles Lewis, and that his mother was a Lewis.

In fact, there were several records for Charles Lewis in Wakefield over the years. However, I have not yet been able to make any connection to the Lands.


John Land baptized in 1730 son of Samuel and John Land baptized in 1734 son of John

It has been determined that there were at least two John Lands having children in Wakefield between 1761 and 1774. There were John Lands baptized in the appropriate time period:

  1. John the son of John of Westg 3 May 1734

  2. John the son of Samuel Land, Woodside in 1730

I believe that my John Land (father of Charles) was the son of John baptized in 1734. This branch of the Land family were in Alverthorpe/Thorns/Westgate.

John Land★ & Martha Eastwood

Baptism: No later than 1710

Marriage: John Land and Martha Eastwood 13 January 1730 WAS

No obvious baptism for either Martha Eastwood or John Land.

Children:

  1. Samuel Land (1731 - ) and Ann Sunderland?????

    Birth: Sam. of John Land of Westg [Westgate] 11 Dec 1731

    Other: See Samuel born 1725, son of Samuel Land, Woodside below.

    Witness: To the marriage of James Land and Suasannah Baldwin. The signature is NOT the same as the signature on the marriage certificate in 1755.

    Marriage: ????? Samuel Land to Ann Sunterland by banns, February 3, 1755.

    See Samuel born 1725, son of Samuel Land, Woodside below.

    Children: See Samuel born 1725, son of Samuel Land, Woodside below.

    I am fairly sure given the Alverthopre address that the following four children were the sons and daughters of Samuel the son of John born Westgate 1731.

    1. James✟ of Samuel Land Alverthorpe 16 April 1763
      Death: James Land, the son of Samuel of "A" was buried November 8, 1763

    2. Thomas of Samuel Land Alverthorpe 8 July 1764

    3. Ann✟ of Samuel Land Alv [Alverthorpe] 6 Feb 1768
      Death: Buried July 31, 1769. (WAS)

    4. Nanny of Sam Land Alv [Alverthorpe] 14 July 1770

      Note: Ann, Hannah, and Nanny are all forms of the same name.

      Marriage: ???? Hannah Land married William Taylor both of the parish. Both made their mark. Witness Francis Land who made his mark. WAS April 24, 1798. Note : This would suggest a significant connection to Francis Land. What does this mean?? Probably not the daughter of Samuel.

    5. Judith✟ July 14, 1774, no place listed. (WAS)
      Death: Judy, the daughter of Samuel Land was buried May 5, 1775

  2. John Land (1734-)

    John of John Land of Westg. [Westgate] 3 May 1734

    Marriage: Unknown

    Possible Children:

    1. Joseph either 1863 or 1864.

      1. Joseph, of John Land of "W", baptized on March 26, 1763.
      2. Joseph, of John Land of "W", on August 11, 1764.

      The baptisms are too close together to be children of the same parents.

    2. Charles Land (1767- ) and Elizabeth Dunford

      Birth: Charles, of John Land of "W" on January 1, 1767.

      Marriage: Elizabeth Dunford December 25, 1787 WAS

      Children:

      1. James 1789, Wakefield New Zion
      2. Charles Lewis 1797, Leeds

    3. See Children of John Land 1761 to 1774 above. Also see Charles Land and Elizabeth Dunford

    4. Henry of John Land of "W", on September 30, 1769.

    5. John Land (1770/71 - ) and Ann _______

      Birth: John, of John Land of "Alv" (Alverthorpe) on January 6, 1770/71.

      Marriage: Ann _______ No later than 1793

      Children:

      1. Hannah born on November 7, 1793 and baptized on November 20, 1793. Microfilm 0828166. New Zion Independent Church Wakefield.

      2. David baptized March 19, 1795. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.

        Marriage: Elizabeth Roach 31 May 1824 St John Wakefield. He signed. She made her mark.

        Censuses: No

      3. Elizabeth born on February 3, 1795 and baptized on March 19, 1795. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.

      4. Ann of "John and Ann Land of Alverthrough, Wakefield", born on February 1, 1798 and baptized on March 13, 1798. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.

      5. Rhoda of "John and Ann Land of Alverthop, Wakefield," born October 29, 1800 and baptized on February 17, 1801. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.

        Marriage: Rhoda Land married John Wilby in Wakefield December 26, 1826. Both signed. Witness David Land who signed.

        John Wilby 31 Mar 1798 Baptism Wakefield, All Saints Father David Wilby Mother Sarah Wilby

        He had a brothers: George, baptized in 1800, David baptized in 1802, Benjamin in 1807, Moses in 1811 - sisters: Hannah 1804, Ann 1807

        Brother Moses also moved to St. Mary's Leicester - 1841 census: Moses Wilby 30, Elizabeth Wilby 30, Elizabeth Wilby 9, Henry Wilby 7, Ann Wilby 5, Daniel Wilby 3, John Wilby 1, George Weberston 15. In 1851 he was listed as a worsted dealer and publican. In 1861 as a worsted spinner born Wakefield.

        Children of Rhoda Land and John Wilby per 1841 census:

        1. Henry c 1825

          Henry Wilby Baptism Date: 4 Oct 1830 Baptism Place: St. Marys, Leicester, Leicester, England Father: John Wilby Mother: Rhoda Wilby FHL Film Number: 592564

        2. Charles c 1827

          NAME: Chas. Wilby MOTHER: Rhoda FATHER: John Wilby BAPTISM: 4 Oct 1830 - Saint Mary DE Castro, Leicester, England

          In 1861 Charles Wilby, Lamb's Wool Spinner was listed as a bankrupt (The Solicitors' Journal & Reporter, Volume 13)

        3. George c. 1830

          George Wilby Baptism Date: 4 Oct 1830 Baptism Place: St. Marys, Leicester, Leicester, England Father: John Wilby Mother: Rhoda Wilby FHL Film Number: 592564

          Marriage 1851: George Wilby Age: 21 Marriage Date: 9 Sep 1851 Wolverton, Buckingham, England Father: John Wilby Spouse: Lavinia Noon FHL Film Number: 1966922

          In June 2016 Kevin Wilby, a descendent of Rhoda Land and John Wilby, wrote from Victoria Australia with the following information:

          We are descended from John Wilby & Rhoda Land.

          It seems they moved to Leicester.

          One of their children George (Baptised 4th October 1830 at St Mary de Castro Leicester) and married Lavinia Noon ((Baptised 5th November 1829 at St Mary de Castro Leicester). Married 6th September 1851 at Potterspury.

          Lavinia Noon is the daughter of Samuel Noon & Mary Anne Bilson both of Leicester - at some time he was the Governor of the Leicester Borough Gaol.

          They migrated to Australia and arrived in mid 1852 and their first child George was born July 1852 at Adelaide South Australia. My family is descended from their 3rd child Henry born 3rd July 1856 at Avoca Victoria. George & Lavinia had several children, 2 died in infancy.

          1. George Ernest (born 1852 South Australia; died Beaconsfield Tasmania)
          2. Francis John born (born 18?? Victoria; died 1935 Williamstown Victoria)
          3. Henry (born 1856 Avoca Victoria; died 1918 Bendigo Victoria)
          4. Maria (born 1858 Forest Creek Victoria; died 1859 Forest Creek Victoria)
          5. Charles (born Forest Creek Victoria; 1860 died 186 1 Forest Creek Victoria)
          6. Annie (born 1861 Chewton Victoria; died 1864 Chewton Victoria)
          7. Ellen (born 1863 Chewton Victoria; died 1886 Allendale Victoria)
          8. John Charles (born 1865 Chewton Victoria; died 1950 Moonee Ponds Victoria)

          For some reason George & Lavinia changed their surname a few times, their first child was registered as Bates, 2nd Wilby-Bates; 3rd Wilby-Bates; 4th to 8th Wilby. From 1864 onwards they reverted to Wilby. We have no idea why the name changes??

          Kevin Wilby Victoria, Australia

        4. Harriett

          Harriet Wilby MOTHER: Rhoda Land FATHER: John Wilby BIRTH: 19 Apr 1833 - Dover Street General Baptist, Leicester, England

          Harriet Wilby daughter of John Wilby and Rhoda daughter of John Land, April 1833, Dover street Baptist

        5. Sarah

          Sarah Wilby MOTHER: Rhoda Land FATHER: John Wilby BIRTH: 23 Mar 1836 - Dover Street General Baptist, Leicester, England

          Dover Street General Baptist - Sarah Wilby 2nd daughter of John Wilby and his wife, Rhoda, daughter of John Land, born At Mary, Leicester March 23 1836.

      1841: York street, St Mary Leicester Borough Leicestershire England, John "Willy", 42, ---, yarn maker, Rhoda Willy 40, Henry Willy 16, Charles Willy 14 George Willy 12 Harriett Willy 9 Sarah Willy 6 Martha Horner 50 (quite hard to read)

      1842: The partnership known as Lambs Wool Yarn Spinners of Leicester, under the style of Brierley, Wilby and co. between Jonathan Brierley, John Wilby and Joseph Poppleton was disolved by mutual consent in December 1842. The business was continued under the partnership of Wilby and Brierley.

      1846: Wilby, John, lambs wool yarn mfr. York street, Welford rd. (History, gazetteer, and directory of Leicestershire)

      Death of Rhoda Wilby: Rhoda Wilby 1847 Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Leicester Volume: 15 Page: 86

      1851: York street, Leicester St Mary, West Leicester, Leicestershire, John Wilby 52, widow, spinner born Wakefield Yorkshire, Sarah Wilby 15, dressmaker, daughter born Leicester, Esther Whyman 30, servant, Maria Whyman 32, visitor

      1854: John Wilby Yarn Manufacturer, York Street, Leicester, directory

      1861: Leicester, St. Mary, John Wilby 63, wool yarn manufacturer, born Yorkshire, Harriet Wilby 28, daughter, born Leicester, Ellen Leigh 35, visitor, Harry Burgess 3, visitor

      1863: Wilby John 42 York st Welford rd YARN Leichester directory

  3. Joseph Land (1736-) and Martha Moorhouse

    Birth: Joseph of John Land Westg [Westgate], 2 August 1736

    Marriage: Joseph Land and Martha Moorhouse 22 February 1762. He x'ed. She signed.

    Children:

    1. William of Joseph Land of Thorns 6 August 1763

      No Marriage for William in WAS in appropriate time frame.

    2. Mary of Joseph Land of Thorns 20 April 1767

    Death of Martha Land: Martha Land Thornes, June 24, 1816 age 82, Wakefield St Johns Note:Born circa 1734.

  4. James Land (1740 - ) and Susannah Baldwin

    Birth: James of John Land Westg [Westgate] 15 August 1740

    Marriage: James Land to Susannah Baldwin 31 April both of the parish. He signed. She x'ed. Witness Samuel Land

    Child:

    1. John of James Land no place, 26 Dec 1761

  5. Martha✟ of John Land no place 22 January 1743
    Death: 13 May 1746

  6. Tho ✟ of John Land no place listed
    Death 13 May 1746 - "Tho: & Martha S & D of Jno Land"

  7. William Land (1747-) and Sarah Wright

    Birth: Will of Jno Land no place 9 Sept 1746

    Marriage: William Land married Sarah Wright in 1769. He signed. she made her mark.

    Children:

    1. William Land 1771 and _____ ______
      Birth: William, October 28, 1771 no place listed (WAS PR)
      Marriage: Unknown
      Occupation: Shoemaker per 1841 census
      Residence: Alverthorpe with Thornes 1841
      Children: ??
      1841 Census: Alverthorpe with Thornes, Wakefield, William Land shoe maker, age 70, Ann age 50
    2. Martha 16 March 1773 NOI (WAS)
      Death: Martha, the daughter of William Land was buried February 20, 1774. (WAS)
    3. Sarah Dec 26, 1774 NOI (WAS)
      Death: Sarah the daughter of William Land was buried February 8, 1781. (WAS)
    4. Joseph 27 Feb NOI 1777
    5. James Land (1779-) Alverthorpe, Turnkey at prison, and Mary Lawson
      Birth: James May 11 1779 NOI
      Marriage: James Land of the parish of Alverthrope Dioc of York, Publican, to Mary Lawson of St. Peters Leeds parish 14 October 1805 both signed. married Mary Lawson on October 14, 1805 in Leeds St Peter (Leed Parish Index).
      Children: They had the following children all baptized in Wakefield St John.
      1. 9 Nov 1806, Land, Sarah of James Land and Mary his wife, D. of William and Sarah (Wakefield St John BT)
      2. Elizabeth in WSJ, October 9, 1809 (WSJ BT),
      3. Mary in WSJ, December 8, 1811 (WSJ BT)
      4. Joseph baptized on January 30, 1814.
        Note: This entry is a little confusing. It lists Joseph the son of "Joseph Wright Land", Turnkey at prison, and Mary Lawson of Westgate (WSJ BT). I believe, however, that the father was James and the son was named Joseph Wright.
      5. Elizabeth in WSJ, April 14, 1816, the daughter of James Land, Prison turnkey, and Mary Lawson (WSJ BT)
      6. Ann, the daughter of James Land, Alverthorpe clothier, and Mary Lawson in WSJ, September 5, 1819 (WSJ BT).
      1841 Census: Westgate Common, Alverthorpe with Thornes, James Land age 60, ag lab, Mary Land age 60, Elizabeth Cooper age 20
    6. Mary of William and Sarah Land 27 January 1783
    7. Matty of William and Sarah Land 30 January 1787

  8. Martha of Jno Land no place listed 30 June 1750

    Marriage: Matty (Martha) married Richard Nowell in 1773. She x'ed. He signed.

Death of John Land "Senior": "Jno Land senr" buried November 14, 1765

Other Records connected to this Land Branch:

  • Martha Land buried January 12, 1790. This name was connected with this branch of the Land family. Martha Eastwood was the wife of John Land "Senior". There were several children named Martha. Also the wife of Joseph Land was Martha. She died in 1816.
Samuel Land, Woodside

Baptism:

Two possibilities ????

  1. Son of Jo. 26 SEP 1686 Rothwell.
  2. Son of Thomas, 04 AUG 1691 Horbury
Marriage:

Children:

  1. Francis Land, Woodside, (1723-1760) and Sarah Rothrey

    Baptism: Francis Land son of Samuel Land of Woodside, 29 June 1723

    Marriage: Francis Land to Sarah Rothrey, 11 Feb 1745 WAS, no other information

    Children:

    1. Sarah✟ of Francis Land no place 6 Dec 1746
      Buried 30 June 1751

    2. Tho. of Francis Land Woodside 7 May 1746

    3. Francis, son of Francis Land was buried December 2, 1750 (WAS)

    4. Jno of Francis no place 2 November 1751

    5. Francis Land (1754-) and Anne Fenton
      Birth: Francis of Fran: Land, no place, 6 July 1754 (WAS PR)
      Occupation: Unknown.
      Marriage: Francis Land of the parish of Wakefield married Anne Fenton of Calverly in 1778, in Calverly.
      Children: Francis Land and Anne Fenton had nine children between 1779 and 1799, all except one of them was baptized in WAS. The baptized are from the WAS BT except where noted.
      1. Sarah Land (1779-) and John Hartley
        Birth: Sarah of Francis in 1779 WAS. No other information.
        Marriage: Sarah married John Hartley in 1799 WAS. Both of the Parish. He signed. She x'ed. Witness James Land.
        Children:
        1. Francis Hartley (1802-) coal miner and Grace Clarkson
          Birth: 4 February 1802 Wakefield April 18, 1802 St John's Wakefield, Hartley, Francis son of John Hartley and Sarah his wife, daughter of Francis Land born July 4th. (PR) Stanley cum Wrenthorpe (1851 census)
          Occupation: Coal Miner 1851, 1861 census
          Residence: Leeds St Savior, 1851 Census
          Marriage: Francis Hartley to Grace Clarkson both of St John's Parish Wakefield, both x'ed, witnesses, William Hartley, his mark, Maria Land her mark, May 1, 1825.
          Children:
          1. John circa 1827 Stanley cum Wrenthorpe per 1851 census
          2. Thomas Hartley and Mary Higgins
            Birth: Thomas Dec 20, 1829 Rothwell, Holy Trinity, of Francis and Grace Hartley Rothwell Haigh labourer (PR). Wrenthorpe per 1851 census, Preston per 1881 census, coal miner per censuses
          3. Francis of Francis and Grance Hartley, Rothewell Haigh labourer, Dec 20, 1829 Rothwell Holy Trinity (PR) Rothwell coal miner per 1851 census
          4. William born Rothwell circa 1833 cola miner per 1851 census
          5. Mary of Francis and Grace Hartley, Carr Gate Collier July 13, 1835, Wakefield (PR) Mary age 14 in 1851 census
          6. George age 10 in 1851 census
          7. Joseph age 7 in 1851 census
          8. Charles age 4 in 1851 census
          Death of Grace Hartley:
          Marriage 2: Rebecca
          1861 Census: Leeds, Francis Hartley age 58 coal miner, born Stanley, Rebecca wife age 54, born Lincolshire, Mary age 24 daughter dressmaker, born Stanley, George son age 19 coal miner born Great Preston, Joseph son age 16 coal miner born Newton le Willows, Charles son age 14 born ?? Preston, Charlotte Whiling step daughter age 16 born Leeds
      2. Mary of Francis and Ann May 15, 1780, no other information.
      3. Ann of Francis and Ann 2 March 1782, NOI
      4. Francis (Frank) Land (1783-), Mary ____ & Mary Wood
        Note: Two Frank/Francis Lands born in this time frame. See also Francis son of James Land and Hannah Illingworth. One of them married Ann Dry in Royston in 1818. One of them married Mary Wood in 1818 in Rothwell. Since the sons of Francis have other connection to Rothwell it is likely that this is the Francis who married in Rothwell.
        Birth: Frank 11 November 1783 son of Francis and Ann, NOI
        Occupation: Miner at birth of Jane in 1820
        Marriage: Francis Land married Mary ______
        Children:
        1. Francis of Francis and Mary Land Dec 30, 1807 WAS PR
        Death of Mary Land:
        Marriage: Francis Land married Mary Wood 22 March 1818 in Rothwell. Both "of the parish" - both made their mark.
        Children: Francis Land and Mary Wood had:
        1. Anne of Francis and Mary 7 Sept 1818
        2. John c. 1818 from census
        3. Jane of Francis and Mary Land, Bolton , miner Feb 20, 1820 (Rothwell Holy Trinity PR)
        4. Joseph Land and Elizabeth ______ of Lingwell, Alverthorpe, labourer, coal miner
          Birth: Twins Joseph and Mary of Francis and Mary, Land, Lofthouse miner Febraury 11, 1822 Holy Trinity Rothwell Parish. Lofthouse according to census.
          Occupation: Coal miner
          Marriage: Elizabeth
          Children in Alverthrope:
          1. Francis Thomas, December 31, 1864 (0020038)
            Death: Francis Thomas Land, Alverthorpe, age 7 weeks was buried on December 2, 1864. (0020038)
          2. Lucy of Joseph and Eliza Land, Alverthorpe, labourer, September 5, 1869 (0020038)
          3. Annie of Joseph and Eliza Land, Alverthorpe labourer, September 4, 1870 (0020038)
          1851 Census: Lingwell Gate, Stanley with Wrenthorpe, Joseph Land head age 29, ag lab born Wakefield, Eliza wife, age 20 born Wakefield next to Mary Land widow, age 68 and her children John age 33 coal miner.
          1861 census Lingwele gate Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Joseph, married age 39, labourer at coal mine, born Rothwell, Eliza wife, age 30 born Stanley, Mary d age 7, Caroline d age 5, Phoebe d age 3, Fanny d age 1, Rest born Stanley
          1871 census Alverthorpe with Thornes, Joseph, married age 49, ag lab. born Lofthouse, Eliza wife, age 40 born Stanley, Mary Ann d age 17, factory hand born Lingwell, Caroline d age 15, factory hand born Lingwell, Phebe d age 13, factory hand born Lingwell, Fanny d age 11, scholar born Lingwell, Nancy Hagar Land age 8, Emma Eliza Land age 5 Lucy age 3 and Anne age 10 mo. Rest of children born Alverthrope.
        5. Mary in 1822
        6. Sarah in 1825
        7. Samuel in 1827
        8. All baptized Rothwell
        Death of Francis Land born 1783: 25 Janaury 1831, Francis Land, age 48, Wakefield St John's (National Burial Index, list of Land burials provided by Alan, August 2008)
        1851 census: Lingwell gate, Stanley with Wrenthorpe, Mary Land, head widow, age 68, servant out door, born Normanton, John, son age 33, coal miner, Mary, daughter, age 29 servant, and William grandson age 2 all born Wakefield Note: Mary born circa 1783
      5. James of Francis and Ann in 1786.
        Marriage: James married Anne Ramsley in Rothwell in 1809
      6. Aaron Land (1788-) miner and Mary Holmes, Lingwell & Rothwell, and Leeds
        Birth: Aaron Fenton Land the son of Francis and Ann in 1788 in Woodkirk.
        Occupation: Coal miner
        Marriage: Aaron married Mary Holmes in 1814 in Wakefield, St. John.
        Children:
        1. Ann in Wakefield 1816
        2. Sarah, May 25, 1817 of Aaron Land, Lingwell miner, and Mary Holmes, (BT)
        3. Joseph in Rothwell 1820. Joseph may have married Nancy Douthroye in WAS in 1842.
          I think Nancy is Nancy Duthoit baptised Rothwell 14 Mar 1824 daughter of William and Sarah. There are baptisms of children of James and Hannah Duthoit including William at Rothwell and born Lofthouse. The family are at Stanley cum Wrenthorpe in 1841 but I think this Sarah is his 2nd wife, the first Sarah was buried 1831 Rothwell hence the gap between Eliza and Lucy. Info from Margaret January 2016"
        4. Mary, March 14, 1824 of Aaron Land, Lingwell miner, and Mary Holmes (BT)
        5. Aaron Land (East Ardsley 1832)
          Birth: Aaron, twin of Dan. See next entry
          1861 Census: Leeds North East York Road: Aaron Land head, married, age 33, shoe maker, Marie wife, age 33, canvas weaver, Charlotte daughter age age 9, Kate daughter age age 6 Albert son age age 5 Walter son age, age 3, all born Leeds.
          Death of Aaron Land: 1865 Leeds North, North/68/147 Yorkshire BMD
        6. Dan in East Ardsley in 1832
          Further Records: Not in censuses.
        7. Emma in Leeds, Old Methodist in 1836.
        1841 Census York Road, Leeds, Aaron Land age 50 miner, Mary age 45, Charlotte age 15, Mary age 15, Aaron age 14.
        Death of Aaron Land: 1846 Leeds Southeast Leeds SE/13/443 Yorkshire BMD
      7. John (1790-) and ___
        Birth: John Land son of Francis Land 02 May 1790 Woodkirk (LDS IGI C041641 (Woodkirk Baptisms [1662-1812])
        Marriage:
        Children:
        1. Aaron of John and Mary 25 Dec 1824 Wakefield (LDS IGI C071651 [1813-1824])
      8. Jane of Francis and Ann in 1794 WAS.
        Marriage: Jane married George Frost in WAS in 1813.
      9. Thomas Land of Francis and Ann in 1797 WAS
        Note: See Lands in Wakefield, later records Note: There were two Thomas Lands born in 1796/7
        1. Thomas son of Francis Land and Ann Fenton
        2. Thomas son of James Land and Ann Whitney
        The later records for Thomas Land, coal miner married to Frances Brook, would suggest a connection with this branch of the Land family.
      10. Joseph of Francis and Ann in 1799 WAS.

    6. Death of Francis Land born 1754: 25 December 1823 Francis Land age 72 Wakefield St John's (National Burial Index, list of Land burials provided by Alan, August 2008)

      Death of Anne Fenton, wife of Francis Land born 1754: 22 January 1823 Anne Land age 69 Wakefield St John (National Burial Index, list of Land burials provided by Alan, August 2008) Note: This really should be checked in the St John's church records to make sure there is no conflict.

    Death of Francis Land born 1723: February 10, 1760

    Death of Sarah Rothrey, wife of Francis Land born 1723:

  2. Samuel Land, Woodside, (1725)

    Baptism: Samuel son of Samuel no place listed, January 1725

    Samuel Land and Ann Sunderland ???

    Birth: Note: Could be the son of John baptized in 1731, see above

    Marriage: Samuel Land to Ann Sunderland 3 February, 1755. He signed. She x'ed. Witness John Land

    Children: ???

    1. John✟ of Samuel Land 29 April 1757
      Death; 15 October 1758

    2. Elizabeth of Saml Land 24 March 1759 no place listed

    3. See Samuel Land born 1731 above.

  3. Mary✟, the daughter of Samuel Land buried March 27, 1726. Note: There was no corresponding baptism for Mary.

  4. Margaret✟ of Samuel Land of Woodside, 1 January 1729

    Death: 17 January 1729 Woodside

  5. John Land (1730-1816) & Mary Tunstall?? & Sarah Myers

    Baptism: John Land baptized 9 March 1730 son of Samuel Land of Woodside Wakefield PR.

    Marriages: Mary Tunstall 1754??? Sarah Myers 1759

    John Land would have been 29 at the marriage to Sarah Myers.

    Children: Known children were: Joseph, Philomon, Ruth, Mercy, Sarah and James. See Above.

    Other records:

    1. James Land was a witness to the marriage of John Land and Sarah Myers in 1759. This was most likely not James born in 1740. He would have only been 19 years old at the time.

    Death: John Land age 81 buried 1816, Askwith, October 22, 1816, Weston All Saints
  6. Seven year break

  7. William, of Samuel Land of "Wood", baptized on April 11, 1737.

  8. Sarah, of Samuel Land of "Wood" baptized on November 21, 1741. Sarah may have married either Thomas Copley in 1760, Wakefield All Saints or John Longley in 1765 Wakefield.


The signature of John Land from the marriage of Samuel Land in 1755.

This signature is from the marriage of Samuel Land to Ann Sunderland in Wakefield All Saints in 1755 - a significant connection between John and Samuel. I do not think it is the same signature as that of John Land (married to Sarah Myers). While there are similarities the hand is much less sure.

This signature could be that of either the father or brother of Samuel.


The Lands in Wakefield All Saints 1622 to 1698

The "parish" of Wakefield includes the Chapelries of Horbury and Stanley which kept their own records. The records for All Saints included the town of Wakefield and the villages of Alverthorpe and Thornes (In the township of Alverthrope with Thornes) and the villages of Wrenthorpe, Stanley and Lingwell Gate (in the township of Wrenthorpe with Stanley). There are other villages in the parish but the Lands (in the earlier records at least) seem to be associated with the afore named villages.

The records for All Saints start in 1613. The records are supposed to be listed on the IGI from 1640. I did not find any listings for Land until 1622.

The original research for the Lands in Wakefield was done several years ago using LDS microfilms. The LDS FHL has two versions of the Bishop's Transcripts for Wakefield. The originals are very faded, poorly photographed, and hard to read. A second set of records is a hand written copy made in modern times. It is hard to determine when it was copied, but it is written with pencil on the backside of paper that periodically shows a ghost of a business logo showing through. The handwriting is quite bad and there seems to be a lot of stuff missing. There is also an index of the parish compiled by the LDS Genealogical Society. I have used all of these sources in addition to the IGI for the information on the Lands in WAS.

In 2011 Ancestry.com put up the West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 which includs Wakefield All Saints. I am uncertain if they are the Bishops Transcripts or the Parish Records.

The records for the Lands in Wakefield All Saints between 1622 and 1698 are as follows:

  1. William Land and William Land Junior

    See Early Land Records in Yorkshire for baptismal records of children of William Land and William Land junior born in 1623 and 1633

  2. Richard "Lond"

    Baptism: Unknown. Note: With a death of a first wife this could be the same person as the next listing

    Marriage:

    Children:

    1. John the son of Richard "Lund" was buried May 18, 1624
    2. Bryan, the son of Richard "Lund" was buried April 25, 1629

    Deaths:

  3. Richard "Lond"

    Marriage: Richard "Lond" married Ann Marynutt on March 4, 1633.

    Children:

    1. Anne the (?) of Richard Land was buried September 4, 1632.
    2. John baptized on March 8, 1633.
    3. Ann, the daughter of Richard Land baptized in 1635.
    4. Richard baptized on October 21, 1637

    Death: Richard "Lunde" was buried December 13, 1644. Note: This was during "de peste" or plague.

  4. Valentine

    See Early Land Records in Yorkshire for information on Valentine Land (1609)

  5. Robert Land

    See Early Land Records in Yorkshire for More information on Robert Land

  6. Matthew Land

    Richard, the son of Matthew "Lond" was buried September 15, 1670.

  7. Note: The name Richard could indicate a connection to the Richard listed above.

  8. George Land

    "An infant" of George "Lund"(?) was buried August 13, 1675.

  9. _____ Land

    Susannah Land, widow, Westgate, buried December 20, 1698.

  10. John Land

    John "Lund" married Ann Lee, October 24, 1715

Female Lands

  1. Mary Land married Jonathan Batty in 1676. (From index).
  2. Sarah Land married Michael Sheard on August 15, 1688.
There were no further records for the Lands until the children of Samuel and John born between 1723 and 1745.


Wakefield Tax Records

Wakefield Land tax records are on LDS microfilm 1657876. Given the numbers of Lands in Wakefield at the time it is clear that not every one in the town was evaluated for land taxes. While there were some tenants listed there must have been many more people who were not listed. I am not sure how this worked.

The following Lands were listed in the land tax lists in Wakefield

  1. William Land was listed with a house in the township of Alverthorpe as both a proprietor and tenant from 1781 when this set of records began. By 1787 his holdings had increased to an additional two parcels of land that he was renting. In 1787 the "widow" Land was listed at the same property. In 1788 this property was again listed under William Land. The second William was most likely the son of the first William. William Land was listed at this property until at least 1797. See William Land born 1747 and his son William born 1771. The second William was a shoemaker and lived in Alverthorpe. I looked at the 1787 and 1788 death and did not see a death for William Land.

  2. James Land was listed as a tenant of Mr. Gill at Dick Ings starting in 1781. In 1782 there was a notation that this was "poor land". In the 1787 listing for this property "John Land" was the tenant.

  3. No date: Mr Hopkinson (proprietor), James Land (tenant), 1/1

    No date: Wakefield, poor land, James Land Land 1/1/91/2

  4. Joseph Land was listed as a proprietor and tenant for a house in Thornes starting in 1797.

  5. John Land was listed as a tenant with a house in Alverthorpe starting in 1796.

  6. Henry Land was listed with land starting in 1795.


The Lands in New Zion Church Wakefield in the late 1700s.

Wakefield New Zion

The introduction to the Wakefield New or Zion Chapel reads,

"The baptism Book for the Independent Meeting Place Wakefield. Which was opened the first of January 1783 by Mr Gover Zach 6:13 and Mr Coken who presented form Matt 18:20 for setting"
New or Zion Chapel Wakefield is on two LDS microfilms: 0828166 and 1657064. Microfilm 0828166 contains the baptism of James, the son of Charles Land and Elizabeth Dunford, and the introductory comments on the opening of the Independent Meeting Place quoted above. It also contains four baptisms for the children of John and Ann Land and four baptisms for the children of William and Sarah Land and several burial records. Microfilm 1657064 contains some of the same information. The format is different and some of the information is different. There were no Land marriages listed in either microfilm between 1838 and 1852.

  1. Charles Land, born 1767 son of John Land and Mother Unknown

    Baptism: Son of John see above.

    Marriage: Charles Land married Elizabeth Dunford on December 25, 1787 in All Saints, Wakefield.

    Children:

    1. James, the son of Charles and Elizabeth Land, was born August 3, 1789 and baptized August 11, 1789 in the New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield (LDS film 0828166).

      Notes:

      • This was most likely their first child.
      • The name James Dunford Land was used by this branch of the Land family for several subsequent generations.

      Eight Year Break

      Sometime between the birth of James in 1789 and the birth of Charles Lewis in 1797, Charles Land and Elizabeth Dunford moved to Leeds.

    2. Charles Lewis Land

      Birth: Charles "Louis" Land, the son of Charles Land of St James Street, was baptized in the Leeds parish church on September 3, 1797.

      Note:

      • While the middle name was spelt "Louis" in this baptism, subsequent records spell the name "Lewis".

    3. See Charles Land and Elizabeth Dunford

  2. John Land, (1770) son of John Land of Alverthorpe and Ann ______

    Baptism: John, of John Land of "Alv" (Alverthorpe) on January 6, 1770 in Wakefield All Saints. See above under Children of John Land baptized between 1761 and 1774.

    Marriage: Unknown, Ann, no later than 1793

    Children:

    1. Hannah born on November 7, 1793 and baptized on November 20, 1793. Microfilm 0828166. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.
    2. David baptized March 19, 1795. Both microfilms. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.
      Marriage: Elizabeth Roach 31 May 1824 St John Wakefield
      Censuses: No
    3. Elizabeth born on February 3, 1795 and baptized on March 19, 1795. Both microfilms. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.
    4. Ann of "John and Ann Land of Alverthrough, Wakefield", born on February 1, 1798 and baptized on March 13, 1798. Both microfilms. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.
    5. Rhoda of "John and Ann Land of Alverthop, Wakefield," born October 29, 1800 and baptized on February 17, 1801. Both microfilms. New Zion Independent Church in Wakefield.
      Marriage: Rhoda Land married John Wilby in Wakefield December 26, 1826. Both signed. Both of the parish. Witness David Land.
      Note: Rhoda is an unusual name. There was only one other listing for Rhoda in the IGI. Rhoda, the daughter of John and Sarah Land baptized on April 10, 1857 in East Knottingley. In June 2016 Kevin Wilby, a descendent of Rhoda Land and John Wilby, wrote from Victoria Australia with the following information:
      We are descended from John Wilby & Rhoda Land.

      It seems they moved to Leicester.

      One of their children George (Baptised 4th October 1830 at St Mary de Castro Leicester) and married Lavinia Noon ((Baptised 5th November 1829 at St Mary de Castro Leicester). Married 6th September 1851 at Potterspury.

      Lavinia Noon is the daughter of Samuel Noon & Mary Anne Bilson both of Leicester - at some time he was the Governor of the Leicester Borough Gaol.

      They migrated to Australia and arrived in mid 1852 and their first child George was born July 1852 at Adelaide South Australia. My family is descended from their 3rd child Henry born 3rd July 1856 at Avoca Victoria. George & Lavinia had several children, 2 died in infancy.

      1. George Ernest (born 1852 South Australia; died Beaconsfield Tasmania)
      2. Francis John born (born 18?? Victoria; died 1935 Williamstown Victoria)
      3. Henry (born 1856 Avoca Victoria; died 1918 Bendigo Victoria)
      4. Maria (born 1858 Forest Creek Victoria; died 1859 Forest Creek Victoria)
      5. Charles (born Forest Creek Victoria; 1860 died 186 1 Forest Creek Victoria)
      6. Annie (born 1861 Chewton Victoria; died 1864 Chewton Victoria)
      7. Ellen (born 1863 Chewton Victoria; died 1886 Allendale Victoria)
      8. John Charles (born 1865 Chewton Victoria; died 1950 Moonee Ponds Victoria)

      For some reason George & Lavinia changed their surname a few times, their first child was registered as Bates, 2nd Wilby-Bates; 3rd Wilby-Bates; 4th to 8th Wilby. From 1864 onwards they reverted to Wilby. We have no idea why the name changes?? Kevin Wilby Victoria, Australia

  3. William Land, and Sarah _____, Albrigg and Kirkgate, Wakefield

    Baptism: Unknown, circa 1788.

    He may be the son of James per an odd listing at New Zion. No listing on IGI for son of James. Could be son of Thomas and Mary Land baptized WAS 1789. If he was not a son of James or Thomas he would have been of the right age to be a brother or son of Charles Land (1767). Charles Land and his brother John were members of the same congregation, albeit at different times.

    Marriage: Unknown, no earlier than 1808, Sarah. IGI has listing to Sarah Hirst in 1808 in Dewsbury (???) Willian and Sarah were such common names.

    Children

    1. George circa 1811 per 1841 census conection to Sarah Ann, his daughter. 03 MAY 1809, 30 MAY 1809, Ossett Green Independent Congregational, Ossett, Yorkshire, England son of William and Sarah Land (LDS IGI).
    2. "A child of William Land entered 10 feet from the (pales?) April 9, 1829 (Microfilm 0828166).
      "A child of William Land" buried April 9, 1823, (Microfilm 1657064). New Zion.
      Note: This most likely represents the same burial.
    3. Sarah of "William and Sarah Land of Agbrigg, Wakefield", born on May 24, 1829 and baptized on October 5, 1829 (Microfilm 0828166) New Zion. Only "Wakefield" is listed on microfilm 1657064.
    4. John of "William and Sarah Land of Agbrigg, Wakefield", born on March 10, 1831 and baptized on April 12, 1831(Microfilm 0828166) New Zion. Only 'Wakefield is listed on microfilm 1657064.
    5. Henry of "William and Sarah Land of Agbrigg, Wakefield", born on August 30, 1833 and baptized on November 24, 1833 New Zion. There is a note between this baptism and the one below it and I do not know which record it belongs to. It reads, "Bap by Jn Bryce Liverpool"( Microfilm 0828166). Only "Wakefield" is listed on microfilm 1657064.
      Death: Henry, the son of William Land of "Kirkgate", was buried April 30, 1863 in "feet ?" of ground. New Zion

    Church Members for New Zion: (Microfilm 1657064) William and Sarah Land of Kirkgate, Date of Admission January 30, 1842, "vote of church", general remark for William "died in the Lord, August 28, 1856" general remarks for Sarah, "died in 1868".

    Note: Their children were baptized in New Zion from 1829 to 1833, yet they didn't become members until 1842. I have noticed this pattern in other Nonconformist congregations.

    1851 census: Kirkgate, Wakefield, Holy Trinity William Land, head, age 62 parson broker, born Wakefield, Sarah Land, wife, age 61, born Wakefield, John Land, son age 19, joiner, born Wakefield, Sarah Land, daughter age 21, assistant in the house, born Wakefield, Sarah Ann Land, granddaughter, age 15, born in Boston Lincolnshire

    Death: William Land died age 68, August 28, 1856 (microfilm 1657064).

    Sarah Ann Land: According to the 1841 census was age 6, daughter of George Land age 30, blacksmith and Jane Land age 30, plus another daughter Jane age 2. Boston Lincolnshire.

    Odd Record: The ledgers for New Zion are a little disorganized. The following entry was listed in an undesignated category and I believe represents payment for a burial plot and stone for William Land and family.

    Mr. William Land of Kirkgate, son of James (?), April 30, 1843 10/6, 2 grave 10 feet. The next line contains the entry, "Mr Wm Land, stone over same, 1/1/0". (Note: 10/6 and 1/1/0 represent an amount of money.)
    1861 Census: Sarah Land age 72 mother in law and Sarah A Land niece were listed on Quebec Street Wakefield with David Kenyor, age 32, tailor (master employing 2 boys) and Sarah age 31, plus 2 apprentices.
  4. Miscellaneous at New Zion

    There are several other records at New Zion

    Burial: George Land died May 19 1858 (microfilm 1657064). There are three digits to indicate the age which looks like "109". It may be 49. This could possible have been, George the son of William and Sarah and the father of Sarah Ann.

    Church Members:

    1. Margaret Land and Elizabeth Ann Land, age 16, of Queen Street, admitted April 24, 1878. There was no age listed for Margaret. Under General remarks, "Margaret Land died in 1887", no date, "Elizabeth Ann Land married Lapier (?) December 18 (?) 1889" (Microfilm 1657064). Elizabeth Ann was born circa 1862.

    2. Marie Land, age 12, Cock Swan Yard, mill girl, admitted December 29, 1881. There were two other "mill girls" whose address was "Cock Swan Yard" admitted the same day. All three of them were dismissed "to John Street" on August 3, 1882. It was a common cause of dismissal in the records.


Other Land Records in Wakefield All Saints 1740 and Later

Baptismal, Marriage and Deaths For Other Lands in WAS 1740 and Later

  1. Jo Lund "Huch't" was buried December 8, 1740

  2. Ann Land married John Tompson in 1746. Ann was born no later than 1726.

  3. Martha Land married William Thirkel in 1746. Martha was born no later than 1726. Could be the daughter of Samuel baptized in Dewsbury in 1718.

  4. Ann Land married James Hudson in 1750. Ann was born no later than 1730.

  5. Sarah Land married Thomas Copley 12 Nov 1760

  6. Sarah Land had a son, Thomas, March 24, 1761.

  7. Sarah Land married John Longley 15 April 1765

  8. Joshua Land married Sarah Bland in 1768. They had at least one daughter, Alice d of Joshua Land of B (or R), 8 Mar 1769. There is no appropriate baptismal record for Joshua born no later than 1748.

  9. Thomas Land and Jane Townend
    Birth:
    Marriage: Thomas Land married Jane Townsend in Pontefract in 1772. Both of the Parish.
    Children: They had the following children baptized in WAS:
    1. Elizabeth d of Thomas Land of _?uch 24 May 1773
    2. James Land and Elizabeth Flemming, Rothwell and Wakefield
      Birth: James in 1775
      Marriage: Elizabeth Fleming in WAS in 1796
      Children:
      1. Thomas in 1797 in Rothwell
      2. Thomas in 1799 in Rothwell
      3. William in 1801 in Rothwell
      4. Mary in 1802 in Rothwell
      5. James of James and Elizabeth 15 March 1805 WAS
      6. Elizabeth in 1806 in Rothwell
      7. John 1808 in Rothwell
      8. Samuel in 1809 in Rothwell
      9. Henry in 1811 in Rothwell
      10. Emanuel, 09 OCT 1812, Christening, 27 NOV 1812, of James Land and Elizabeth All Saints, Wakefield,
      11. Jane in 1815 in Rothwell
      Censuses: No
    3. Jinney in 1778
      Death: Jenny buried October 17, 1778
    4. Thomas in 1779
    5. Polly, of Thomas and "Jane" in 1782

  10. Priscilla Land married James Clegg in 1789. Priscilla was born no later than 1769.

  11. Ann Land married Thomas Oridge in 1790 WAS. Ann was born no later than 1770.


Other Charles Lands Taken from the IGI and the Censuses

Charles was not a name that appeared in the available Land family records until the baptism of Charles, the son of John Land, in All Saints Wakefield in 1767. Subsequently there are several listings for the Charles Land in the IGI and the censuses as follows:

  1. Charles Land, Leeds

    Baptism: No later than 1795
    Marriage: Charles Land cloth dresser married Mary Rawnsley widow by banns both made thier mark, St. Peters, Leeds on June 14, 1815.

    Note: James Land born 1789 Wakefield, son of Charles Land and Elizabeth Dunford married Anne Rawnsley in Rothwell in 1809. They lived and had several children in Leeds.

  2. George Land, Dewsbury, who named a son Charles in 1818

    Baptism:
    Marriage:
    Children:

    1. Charles Land
      Birth: Charles the son of George and Sarah Land, Thornhhill, watermann, Dewsbury, was baptized on January 28, 1818.

    Only child born to George and Sarah Land in Dewsbury. Not listed in the censuses.

  3. The John Lands of Knottingly who named sons, Charles in 1826 and 1851

    1. John Land born unknown, married Sarah (unknown) and had a son Charles Land in 1826.
    2. John and Sarah Land of East Knottingley, had Charles Land (1851-) , baptized on October 8, 1851. Given the dates, this John and Sarah must be in the generation after the John and Sarah listed above.

    LANDS IN KNOTTINGLEY

    There were no Lands listed in the Knottingley tithes 1719-1721 (microfilm 1657859)

    William Land (1795-) and Ann (Hannah)

    Birth: c 1795 Knottingley
    Marriage: Anne (Hannah)
    Children:

    1. Mary of William Land and Anne 1814
    2. Anne of William and Hannah 1821
    3. Hannah 1827
    4. Samuel of William Land and Hannah 1830
      1861 Census: Crew aboard a ship or vessel, Eclipse, Hayle Cornwall Samuel Land unmarried age 31, mate, born Knottingley, Yorkshire
    5. Jane in 1833
    1861 Census: Cowtown (?) Knottingly, William Land, age 66, waterman, Hannah, wife, age 66 (?) Jane daughter, 18

    Joseph Land (1795-)

    Birth: c. 1795
    Marriage: Sarah
    Children:

    1. Harriet in 1816
    2. John of Joseph and Sarah 1818
    3. Anne of Joseph and Sarah 1820
    4. Chrissey of Joseph and Sarah 1822
    5. William of Joseph Land and Sarah 1825
    1871 Census: Hogate Hospital South Handley, Hannah Land, head,age 69, Joseph Land, husband, age 76, formerly ag lab. born Knottingly.

    John Land (c. 1794-)

    Birth: No later than 1794
    Marriage: Sarah
    Children: John Land and Sarah had:

    1. Harriet in 1814
    2. Joseph of John Land and Sarah 1816
    3. John in 1818
    4. Rosamond of John Land and Sarah 1818
    5. Charles of John and Sarah 1826
    6. Sarah of John Land and Sarah 1825
    7. Selina of John Land and Sarah 1827
    8. Twins, Sarah
    9. William, of John Land and Sarah 1831

    John Land (??)

    Birth:
    Marriage: Sarah
    Children: John Land and Sarah had:

    1. Sarah Anne of John Land and Sarah 1848 July
    2. Elizabeth of John and Sarah 1850

    John Land (1824-)

    Birth: 1824
    Marriage: Sarah
    Children: John Land and Sarah of East Knottingley had:

    1. Sarah Ann of John Land and Sarah East Knottingley 1848 Oct
    2. Charles of John and Sarah East Knottingley 1851
    3. Frederick of John and Sarah of East Knottingley 1855
    4. Ronda of John Land and Sarah of East Knottingley 1857
    5. Samuel of John Land and Sarah of East Knottingley 1859
    6. Alice Elizabeth of John Land and Sarah 1863, East Knottingley
    7. William in 1866.
    1861 Census: Knottingley Ropery Walk, John Land head, age 37, waterman, Sarah, wife,age 36, Sarah Ann d, age 12, Elizabeth age 10, Charles age 9, John age 8, Rhoda age 4 and Samuel age 2
    1861: Vessel Sperlation (?) Smithlocks Linconshire, John Land, married, master age 37 born Knottingley and Charles, son age 10, born Knottingley, Yorkshire

    Ronda is an unusual name. There are three listings on the IGI for Rhoda Land in Yorkshire:

    1. The daughter of John Land and Ann in Wakefield New Zion, in 1801,
    2. Marriage of Rhoda Land to John Wilby in Wakefield in 1823.
    3. The daughter of John Land and Sarah in East Knottingley in 1857.

  4. Charles Land, the son of Sarah Land, Wakefield, St John, on May 31, 1829.

  5. Charles Land married Ann Robinson in Tong in November 4, 1832.

  6. Charles Rutter Land was baptized in Salem Independent Chapel in Leeds on December 15, 1834, the son of Elizabeth Land of Leeds, widow. Her signature however looks like Elizabeth "Foy", widow. Salem Chapel had only one other listing for the name Land. In 1834 and 1835 two children were baptized whose mother was Mary Ann Land. The father was Ebenezer Gusher.

  7. The Charles Lands born between 1842 and 1855

    There were 7 Charles Lands born between 1842 and 1855 who were listed in the censuses.

    1. Charles Land son of John Land born c 1851 in Knottingly, see above

    2. Charles Land (c 1845-) born Stanley son of John Land, twine spinner and Sally.

    3. Charles Land (c 1845-) born Honley listed in the 1851 the censues with his mother, Marriah Land, head widow, age 41, domestic manager, Martha Ann, daughter, age 15, power loom weaver woolen, Ellen Marriah, daughter, age 13 burler, William Edwin, son age 11, peicer woolen Charles, age 6, scholar, and Sophiah daughter, age 8, scholar, Benajmin son age 9 mos., all born Honley

    4. Charles Lewis Land born 1848, son of James Dunford Land and Mary Ratcliff and the grandson of Charles Lewis Land and Ann Dinsdale. Died in 1857. Listed in the 1851 census in Leeds. See James Dunford Land and Mary Ratcliff under Charles Lewis Land

    5. Charles Lewis Land born 1852, son of John Land and Mary Dyson and the grandson of Charles Lewis Land and Ann Dinsdale. See John Land

    6. Charles Land (1852-) son of George Land, blacksmith, born Wrenthorpe, Outwood listed in the censues. See under George Land Wrenthorpe miner Later Lands in Wakefield

    7. Charles Land, of John Samuel Land and Mary, in Patrington in 1855. John Samuel Land and Mary of Patrington also had George Andrew in 1850. John Samuel Land of Patrington Yorkshire and his wife, Lucy, had: John Fullarton Land born in 1832 in Patrington, Yorkshire and John Fullarton born in 1833 in Saint John Deansgater, Manchester, Lancashire. They moved back to Patrington, Yorkshire and had Lucy Mary in 1837 and Edith in 1838.


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