Birth 1879, Elsfleth Germany

Johannes Bernard Petermann the son of Petermann, Johann Berend (can't read occupation) of Elsfleth and Anna Sophia Wilhelmine nee Steuer married 1879 November 20 was born, 18 September 1879 at Boikholyberge (?) Ganderkesee and baptized 9 February 1880 in Elsfleth. Godparents: (Can't read first two lines), Wilhelm Meinking (can't read next two words), Christian Blumenberg, Sophie Katharine Petermann (can't read next two words) Mathilde Bogeley and Rebecka Steuer.

Note: He was born two months before the marriage of his parents.

Marriage of John Petermann and Rose Maher, 1908

John Petermann of 205 Willow Avenue, Hoboken, age 29, boatman, 1st marriage, born in Hoboken, NJ, father, John B Petermann, mother, Sophia Steuer, married Rose G. Maher, of 61 Bloomfield Street, Hoboken, age 29, 2nd marriage, surname of 1st marriage, Nauman, father, Michael Maher, mother, Margaret Reio, on May 20, 1908 in Jersey City, New Jersey. Witnesses were William Wulpern and Anna Petermann. The marriage was performed by Leon Ervin, Justice of the Peace, 7 Romaine Avenue, Jersey City. (New Jersey Civil Record of Marriage)

Note: John was born in Germany.

Children

1. John Joseph Petermann

   Birth, Civil Record: John Joseph Petermann, born February 3, 1909, father, John B Petermann, age 30, born in US, boat____ (can't read), mother, Rose Maher, age 29, housewife, 1 of 1 living children, 205 Willow Avenue, Hoboken (Certificate #1048, 1909 New Jersey)

   Note:

   • The word (or words) in John senior's occupation is longer than the "boatman" listed in his marriage record

   Death: Unknown. I did not find his death in the SSDI.

2. Christopher Thomas Petermann circa 1914

   Birth, Civil Record: I could not find the birth record for Christopher Petermann in New Jersey in 1912, 1913, 1914 or 1915.

   Birth, SSDI: Christoph Petermann, born February 8, 1914.

   Death: Christoph Petermann, born February 8, 1914, died January 18, 1991, SS# 146-09-2457 issued in New Jersey, died in Murphy Cherekee County, NC (SSDI)

   Name: Christopher Thomas Peterman Service Info.: SGT US MARINE CORPS WORLD WAR II Birth Date: 8 Feb 1914 Death Date: 18 Jan 1991 Service Start Date: 10 Mar 1943 Interment Date: 18 Jan 1991 Cemetery: Beaufort National Cemetery Cemetery Address: 1601 Boundary Street Beaufort, SC 29902 Buried At: Section MA Site 38

Occupations

• 1908, boatman
• 1909, boat ----
• 1910, captain tug boat
• 1915, steamer man
• 1918 pilot [a pilot is a person who leads ships into the harbor]
• 1920, steamboat captain
• 1925, boatman
• 1930, breakman R. R.
• 1942, alms house, Secaucus, New Jersey

• Petermann, John B, head, age 32, married, 1st, 2 years, born New York, captain, tug boat
• Petermann, Rose, wife, age 31, married, 2nd, 1 child, 1 still living
• Petermann, John, son, age 1, born New Jersey

1915 New Jersey State Census

• John, September 1878, born New York, steamer Man, renting
• Rose, July 1878, born New Jersey
• Grace, August 1903, born New Jersey
• John, born Febuary 1909 New Jersey
• Christopher, born Jebruary 1914, New Jersey

1917 Draft Registration

I could not find him listed in the 1917 draft registration in Hoboken or Jersey City.

Not listed by Ancestry.com under Peterman or Petermann, John or Bernard.

John B Petermann in the 1920 Federal Census

The 1920 Federal census lists John Petermann and family at 516 Central Avenue in Jersey City as follows:

• John B., head, age 42, born in New York, steamboat captain
• Rose, wife, age 41, born in New Jersey
• John, son, age 12, born in New Jersey
• Christopher, age 6, born in New Jersey
• Grace Newman, step-daughter, age 16, born in New Jersey, operator, soup factory

  Note: There was no notation under citizenship.

John B Peterman was listed at # 52 New York Avenue, in Union City in the 1930 census as follows:

1. John B Peterman, head, Renting $35, radio, age 50, married at age 23, born in New York, breakman R.R.
2. Rose, wife, age 50, married at age 23
3. John Jr., son age 21, clerk, can't read
4. Christopher, son, can't read age, clerk, can't read
5. Grace, daughter, age 25, operator can't read

WWII Draft Registration

Dispite the incorrect place and year of birth I believe that this is the right John Bernard Petermann.

Jersey City Directories

1909-10

John Petermann was listed at 36 2nd Street, Hoboken. His father, Bernard, and his brother, Christian, were listed at the same address.

1918

Jno B Petermann, pilot h 114 Romaine Ave., Jersey City

1925-26

Petermann, Jno (Rose) boatman, 60 Hancock, Jersey City

Petermann, Grace, waiter, 60 Hancock, Jersey City

Death

Helen Land in notes that she made on the Petermann family said that John Petermann died at age 80 in 1963.

There is no listing for him on the Social Security Death Index.

The Flower Hill Cemetery lists a John Petermann buried in 1958 in the same plot as Bernard and Sophie.

Questions

1. Rose Maher Newman Petermann had a daughter, Grace, who was listed with them in the various censuses. Where was she in 1910 when she would have been six years old?

2. My father, Bud Land, always said that his grandfather was a tug boat "pilot" who led the big ships into port. Clearly it was an uncle who was a tug boat captain. Bud also told me once that he visited John Petermann and his family in New Jersey after we had moved to New Jersey (1951). Was he talking about his uncle or his cousin?
3. What happened to John Petermann the third? There is not listing for him in the SSDI. Did he marry and have children?

4. What happened to Christoph Petermann? He was listed in the SSDI as having died in North Carolina in 1991. Did he marry and have children?