Birth 1879, Elsfleth Germany

Johannes Bernard Petermann the son of Petermann, Johann Berend (can't read occupation) of Elsfleth and Anna Sophia Wilhelmine nee Steuer married 1879 November 20 was born, 18 September 1879 at Boikholyberge (?) Ganderkesee and baptized 9 February 1880 in Elsfleth. Godparents: (Can't read first two lines), Wilhelm Meinking (can't read next two words), Christian Blumenberg, Sophie Katharine Petermann (can't read next two words) Mathilde Bogeley and Rebecka Steuer.

Note: He was born two months before the marriage of his parents.

See J. Berend (Bernard) Petermann

Immigration

Unknown.

Marriage of John Peterman(n) and Rose Maher, 1908

John Petermann of 205 Willow Avenue, Hoboken, age 29, boatman, 1st marriage, born in Hoboken, NJ, father, John B Petermann, mother, Sophia Steuer, married Rose G. Maher, of 61 Bloomfield Street, Hoboken, age 29, 2nd marriage, surname of 1st marriage, Nauman, father, Michael Maher, mother, Margaret Reio, on May 20, 1908 in Jersey City, New Jersey. Witnesses were William Wulpern and Anna Petermann. The marriage was performed by Leon Ervin, Justice of the Peace, 7 Romaine Avenue, Jersey City. (New Jersey Civil Record of Marriage)

Note: John was born in Germany.

Children

1. John Joseph Peterman (1909-)

   Birth, Civil Record: John Joseph Petermann, born February 3, 1909, father, John B Petermann, age 30, born in US, boat____ (can't read), mother, Rose Maher, age 29, housewife, 1 of 1 living children, 205 Willow Avenue, Hoboken (Certificate #1048, 1909 New Jersey)

   Note:

   • The word (or words) in John senior's occupation is longer than the "boatman" listed in his marriage record

   1940 Census: ?????? Underwood Place, Jersey city, Peterman, John, head age 31, accountant, insurance Evelyn, wife age 25, both born New Jersey

   Death: Unknown. I did not find his death in the SSDI.

2. Christopher Thomas Peterman[n] (c. 1914-1991)

   Birth, Civil Record: I could not find the birth record for Christopher Petermann in New Jersey in 1912, 1913, 1914 or 1915.

   He was listed as:

   • Christopher born February 1914 in the 1915 NJ census
   • Christopher Thos., age 6, born in New Jersey in the 1920 Federal Census

   Birth, SSDI: Christoph Peterman, born February 8, 1914.

   Service: Veteran Service Start Date: 10 Mar 1943 Veteran Service End Date: 1 Jun 1946 Rank: SGT Branch: US Marine Corps Last known address: 1601 Boundary Street Beaufort , SC 29902 Beaufort National Cemetery, Beaufort, SC, Section MA Site 38

   Marriage:

   Death 1991: Christoph Peterman, born February 8, 1914, died January 18, 1991, SS# 146-09-2457 issued in New Jersey, died in Murphy, Cherokee County, NC (SSDI)

   Christopher Thomas Peterman, SGT US MARINE CORPS WORLD WAR II, Birth Date: 8 Feb 1914, Death Date: 18 Jan 1991, Service Start Date: 10 Mar 1943, Interment Date: 18 Jan 1991, Cemetery: Beaufort National Cemetery, Cemetery Address: 1601 Boundary Street Beaufort, SC 29902, Buried At: Section MA Site 38

   Christopher Thomas Peterman Male, White, Marital Status: Married, Social Security Number: 146-09-2452, Age: 76, Date of Birth: 8 Feb 1914, Birth Location: New Jersey, Residence County: Cherokee, Residence state: North Carolina, Date of Death: 18 Jan 1991, Death State: Georgia, Autopsy: No, Institution: General Hospital, Attendant: Physician Burial Location: Cremation in state Source Vendor: NC Department of Health. North Carolina Deaths, 1988-92

   Christopher T Peterman, Death Date: 18 Jan 1991, County of Death: DeKalb, Gender: M (Male), Race: White, Age: 76 Years, County of Residence: Camden, Certificate: 005758, Date Filed: 22 Feb 1991

   Christopher Thomas Peterman, Gender M (*inferred), Born 8 Feb 1914, Died 18 Jan 1991, Age 76y 11m 10d (*inferred), Buried ? Cemetery Section MA, Beaufort National Cemetery, Beaufort, Beaufort County, South Carolina, United States Location Section MA Site 38

Occupations of John Petermann Senior

• 1908, boatman
• 1909, boat ----
• 1910, captain tug boat
• 1915, steamer man
• 1918 pilot [a pilot is a person who leads ships into the harbor]
• 1920, steamboat captain
• 1925, boatman
• 1930, brakeman R. R.
• 1942, alms house, Secaucus, New Jersey

• Petermann, John B, head, age 32, married, 1st, 2 years, born New York, captain, tug boat
• Petermann, Rose, wife, age 31, married, 2nd, 1 child, 1 still living
• Petermann, John, son, age 1, born New Jersey
• "Norman", Grace, daughter age 6.

1915 New Jersey State Census

• John, September 1878, born New York, steamer Man, renting
• Rose, July 1878, born New Jersey
• Grace, August 1903, born New Jersey
• John, born February 1909 New Jersey
• Christopher, born February 1914, New Jersey

1917 Draft Registration

I could not find him listed in the 1917 draft registration in Hoboken or Jersey City.

Not listed by Ancestry.com under Peterman or Petermann, John or Bernard.

John B Petermann in the 1920 Federal Census

The 1920 Federal census lists John Petermann and family at 516 Central Avenue in Jersey City as follows:

• John B., head, age 42, born in New York, steamboat captain
• Rose, wife, age 41, born in New Jersey
• John, son, age 12, born in New Jersey
• Christopher Thos., age 6, born in New Jersey
• Grace Newman, step-daughter, age 16, born in New Jersey, operator, soup factory

  Note: There was no notation under citizenship.

Peterman, Grace, waiter, 60 Hancock av

Peterman, Jno, (Rose) boatmn, h 60 Hancock ave.

Only 6 listings for the name. No Petermann.

1930 Census

John B Peterman was listed at # 52 New York Avenue, in Union City in the 1930 census as follows:

1. John B Peterman, head, Renting $35, radio, age 50, married at age 23, born in New York, breakman R.R.
2. Rose, wife, age 50, married at age 23
3. John Jr., son age 21, clerk, can't read
4. Christopher, son, can't read age, clerk, can't read
5. Grace, daughter, age 25, operator can't read

1940 Census

??????? Terminal Hotel, Hoboken, Peterman, John, lodger, age 62, married, born New York, bookkeeper, hotel

WWII Draft Registration, 1942

Dispite the incorrect place and year of birth this may be "my" John Bernard Petermann.

Jersey City Directories

1909-10

John Petermann was listed at 36 2nd Street, Hoboken. His father, Bernard, and his brother, Christian, were listed at the same address.

1918

Jno B Petermann, pilot h 114 Romaine Ave., Jersey City

In 1921 114 Romaine ave offered a 4 room furnished apartment, all modern improvements, very reasonable, electric, phone. Later in the year the building was described as a brick flat on a 35 x 75 feet lot, between Pavonia and Sip aves, four story, each story had two apartments, of five rooms and a bath.

1925-26

Petermann, Jno (Rose) boatman, 60 Hancock, Jersey City

Petermann, Grace, waiter, 60 Hancock, Jersey City

Death

Helen Land in notes that she made on the Petermann family said that John Petermann died at age 80 in 1963. This cannot be correct. Either the age or the date is wrong.

There is no listing for him on the Social Security Death Index.

The Flower Hill Cemetery lists a John Petermann buried in 1958 in the same plot as Bernard and Sophie.

No death listed by LDS under New Jersey deaths.

Questions

1. My father, Bud Land, always said that his grandfather was a tug boat "pilot" who led the big ships into port. Clearly it was an uncle who was a tug boat captain/pilot. Bud also told me once that he visited John Petermann and his family in New Jersey after we had moved to New Jersey (1951). Was he talking about his uncle or his cousin?
2. What happened to John Petermann the third? There is not listing for him in the SSDI. Did he marry and have children?

3. What happened to Christoph Petermann? He was listed in the SSDI as having died in North Carolina in 1991. He was married; did he have any children?