Hanna/Johanna Peters/Petersen/Peterdatter

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Hanna/Johanna Peters/Petersen (c 1863-1933), A Brief Biographical Sketch

Hanna Petersen was born in Norway between 1860/66 to Peter Petersen and Maren (last name not known). She immigrated to the United States, before 1886, exact date unknown.

Hannah Peters married Fritz Kettler between 1883 and 1886. They had had four children, Mary, Gertrude, Frederick and Henry, between 1886 and 1894.

Fritz Kettler died in 1896.

Hanna Peter Kettler married Johannus Jensen in Hoboken in 1898. John Jensen died in Hoboken in 1927.

Hannah Peter Kettler Jensen died in Hoboken, New Jersey in 1933.


Birth of Hanna Peters/Peterson circa 1863, Norway

Johanna/Hanna Peters/Peterson, was born in Norway circa 1860/66 to Peter Petersen* and Maren Petersen*. The 1915 New Jersey State Census and her death record give her birth month as July.

The names of Hanna's parents were taken from the record of the marriage of Hanna Petersen Kettler to Johannus Jensen in Hoboken in 1898.

The records show the following range for the year of her birth:

  • 1860 at the birth of Maria in 1886 and Gertrude in 1889.
  • 1863:
    • At her marriage to Johannus Jensen in 1898
    • July 1863 from the 1905 New Jersey State census
    • 1910 census
    • July 10, 1863/64 on the correction of her death certificate.
  • 1865 (May) in the 1900 census
  • July 10, 1866 as originally listed on her death certificate.
  • July 1866, 1915 New Jersey State Census
  • 1867, 1920 census

In most of the records she was listed as Hanna/Hannah. On the birth record of Marie in 1886 and Gertrude in 1889 she was listed as Johanna.

*"Last names" in Norway changed with each generation. A child took the first name of the father plus the designation "sen" for son and "datter" for daughter. This practice was changing around the time of the birth of Johanna.


Immigration of Hanna Peter/Peterson. Before 1886.

The year of her immigration in the censuses varies from 1885 to 1894. However, she was in Brooklyn by 1886 when she gave birth to her daughter, Maria Kettler.

There is no listing through Castle Gardens, under Petersen (and a variety of spellings) Peterdatter, or Kettler (Ketelaar).

There were a significant number of Scandinavians who immigrated to Brooklyn in the 1880s, 1890s and early 1900s. Many of them settled in the Red Hook section of Brooklyn. Many of them also settled in the area near the harbor end of Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. In 1893 the "Standard- Union" called this area the "Swedish Broadway".

The major settlements of Norwegians were in Wards 12 and 6 which lay on either side of Hamilton Avenue. The Norwegians were the largest group from Scandinavia.

Most of the Norwegians in Red Hook came from seaport towns in Norway: Bergen, Kristiansand and Trondheim.

Back in their native Norway most of these immigrants had been ship's carpenters, seamen and longshoremen. The ship building industry was dying in Scandinavia and they were drawn to Brooklyn because of the growth of its maritime business. Although most Norwegians who immigrated to the United States settled in the Midwest, Brooklyn had the largest urban concentration of Norwegians in the United States.

Hannah married twice:

  • Hannah's first husband was from Friesland (either in Germany or Holland) and spoke either Dutch or German.
  • Her second husband was from Denmark.

There was a large Norwegian community in Brooklyn. Why was Hannah's first marriage outside the Scandinavian community?

Did Hannah speak both the languages of her husbands or did they communicate in English?


Marriage of Hanna Peter/Peterson and Fritz Kettler between 1883 and 1886

Date:

Hanna Peter/Peterson married Fritz Kettler between 1883 and 1886.

Fritz Kettler may have immigrated as early as 1883. It is possible that Hanna also arrived by 1883.

Their first known child was born in 1886. Therefore the marriage most likely occurred 1885 or before.

It is possible (but unlikely) that they married in Europe.

Place:

Since she was Norwegian, and more frequently marriages take place at the home church of the bride, it seems the most likely possibilities would be Norwegian Churches. In the 1898 directory for Brooklyn there were three listings for Norwegian churches in Red Hook, the neighborhood where the first two children of Fritz and Hanna are known to have been born:

  • The Norwegian church at Van Brunt and William Street, Jacob Bo, pastor.

    This church building still exists and is being used as a residence at 111 Pioneer Street (formerly Williams Street)

    This was the Norwegian Seamen's church. The Norwegian Seaman's Church mainly catered to seamen but also ministered to the immigrant community. The church moved to 33 First Place (Corner of Clinton and Henry) in 1928. It is currently a condo.

    I checked the Seaman's records and did NOT find the marriage of Hanna and Fritz.

  • The Norwegian Lutheran Church of Our Savior, Henry Street near 4th Place. A public school is now on this site.

  • St. Paul's Lutheran Church, on Henry near 3rd Place, John Huppenbauer, pastor. This is also listed as a German congregation. It is now a Hispanic Social Center.
Hanna appears from the birth certificates of their daughter's, Marie and Gertrude to be two years older than Fritz.

For more information on Fritz Kettler see Fritz Kettler

No marriage for Kettler/Kettlaar and Peters/Petersen combination in New York between 1880 and 1887. No Kettler/Ketllaar marriages listed in New Jersey between 1879 and 1900.


Children of Hanna Peter/Peterson

  1. Maria Sophia born 1886, Brooklyn, New York
  2. Gertrude born 1889, Brooklyn, New York
  3. Frederic born 1891, place unknown, most likely Hoboken
  4. Henry born 1894 Hoboken, New Jersey

For more detail on the birth of the children of Hanna and Fritz go to Fritz Kettler

Both the Dutch and Norwegian cultures of the time tended to use the names of parents, grandparents, or other family members as names for their children. Norwegian naming patterns were for:

  • The first male child to be named for the father's father and the second to be name for the mother's father.
  • The first female child to be named for the mother's mother and the second female child to be named for the father's mother.
Hannah's parents were Peter and Maren. Fritz's parents were Christian and Gertrude. Frederick was likley to have been named for Fritz. Who were Maria Sophia and Henry named for?

Does Maren=Maria?


Widowhood of Hanna Peter/Peterson 1896

Fritz Kettler died in Hoboken in 1896.

I do not know what happened to Marie Sophia. Gertrude and Fredric were in an orphanages in Brooklyn for 4 plus years. Henry appears to have stayed with his mother.


Marriage of Hanna Peter/Peterson Kettler to John Jensen 1898, Hoboken New Jersey

Hannah Pettersen, born Norway, age 35, maid-servant, 228 Washington Street, Hoboken, father, Peter Petterson, born Norway, mother, Maren Pettersen, born Norway, 2nd marriage, last name of widow, Kettler, married Johannus Jensen, born Denmark, age 31 years, 6 months, insurance agent, 215 Willow Avenue*, Hoboken, father, Ferdinand Beggeson, born Denmark, mother, Rasmine (?) Jensen, born Denmark, 2nd marriage, on September 16, 1898 at 215 Willow Avenue, Hoboken, New Jersey. Witnesses: Olaf Beggersen and Levise Petersen. Minister, Hansel (?) Gundersen, Trinity Scand Ch. Hoboken, New Jersey.

Notes:

  • Olaf Loe Baggesen (Jurgen O R)
    • Baggesen/Beggesen was not a common name
    • 1981 Draft Registration: Olaf Baggeson, 105 13th Street, Hoboken age 43, born March 19, 1875 white, naturalized, foreman Scandinavian ----- ---- 17 St, Hoboken Jennie Baggesen, wife, height medium, build stout, eyes blue, hair ---, September 12, 1918 Draft Registration.
    • 1910 Census on Washington Street, Oluf Baggesson and Jennie, married 5 years no children, foreman docks, see 1920 below.
    • 1920 Census: 13th Street Hoboken, Olaf Baggesen, head age 44, immigrated 1900 naturalized in 1907, Born Denmark, forman steamship line, Jennie, wife, age 37, immigrated in 1901, naturalized in 1907, born Sweden
      Note: The immigration date does not jibe with the fact that he was a witness to the marriage of Johannus Jensen in 1898.
    • 1922: Olaf Baggesen, (Jennie), forman h. 105 13th street, Jersey City, New Jersey, City Directory, 1922
    • 1923 passport application, New York, Jorgen Olaf Rye Baggessen and wife, Jennie Bentson Baggessen Married in Hoboken Nay 1904, born is Sweden August 29, 1881, Jorgean born Denmark March 19 1875 to Ferdinant Baggesen born Denmark now residing USA Minnesota, Jogen immigrated to the US from Copenhagen, Denmark, April 1903, had been living in Hoboken for about 20 years. naturalized common pleas Jersey City, address 105 13th street Hoboken, forman, Scandinavian, to travel to Denmark, age 48, 5 ft 6 inches, blue eyes, brown hair, photo
    • 1924 on the Frederick VIII from Copenhagen, Jorgen O R Baggesson, age 48, and Jenni Baggeson, age 43, US citizens, arrived 20 March 1924, address 13 Street Hoboken. The manifest indicates that Jorgen Baggesen was naturalized June 25, 1923 No. 31596 Wash. D.C.

    • Passport picture of Olaf Baggessen and his wife.

  • Levise Petersen
    • I cannot find any records for Levise Petersen on Ancestry.com

*Henry Blanck lived at 215 Willow avenue from 1897 to 1900. Henry's son, Louie, married Hannah's daughter, Gertrude, in 1907 at 213 Willow ave. See Henry Blanck


Hannah Peter/Petersen and Johannus Jensen in the 1900 Census in New Jersey

The 1900 Federal Census lists Hanna Peter/Petersen and her second husband, Johannus Jensen, at 113 Monroe Street, Hoboken as follows:

  • John Jensen, head, born March 1867, age 33, married 15 years, born Denmark, immigrated 1890, in US 10 years, alien, Insurance agent
  • Hannah Jensen, wife, born May 1865, age 35, married 15 years, born Norway, immigrated 1890, in US 10 years, housewife
  • Mannie Jensen, daughter, born January 1886, age 14, born Denmark, immigrated 1890, in US 10 years, hat maker
  • Herman Jensen, son, born March 1892, age 8, born in New Jersey
  • Henry Jensen, son, born, April 1896, age 5, born in New Jersey

There are a few minor discrepancies in the census:

  • Hannah was in the US by 1886
  • Hannah and "John" were only married for 2 years
  • Henry was not a Jensen. He was the son of Fritz Kettler

Hannah's daughter, Gertrude, and her son, Frederick, were listed in an orphanage in Brooklyn in the 1900 census. See Fritz Kettler

Was "Mannie" Hanna's daughter, Mary, by Fritz Kettler? The year of birth is the same, but the month is different. It also states that she was born in Denmark which could indicate that "Mannie" was John's daughter. I did not find a death record in New Jersey for Mary Kettler before 1900.

Friday May 10, 1901 Gersche Otterstedt to John Otterstedt and John Lutz partners 113 Monroe Street rent $75 and vacant lot 115 Monroe street rent $50 per annum for ten years from May 1, 1901.


The 1905 New Jersey Census

Hanna Peter Kettler Jensen, her second husband, John Jensen, her children, and stepson were listed at 407 Fourth Street in the 1905 New Jersey Census as follows:

  1. John "Jannsen", born March 1867, Denmark, age 38, in US 15 years, naturalized, labourer
  2. Hanna "Jannsen", wife, born July 1863, Norway, age 41, in US 22 years.
  3. Gertrude Kettler, born May 1887, New York, age 16, packer
  4. Frederick Kettler, born February 1891, age 14, mechanic
  5. Henry Kettler, born Apr 1894, New Jersey, age 12, at school
  6. Hermann "Jannsen", born May 1893, Denmark, age 12, at school

Gertrude, Frederick and Henry Kettler were all listed as mother born Norway, father born Germany.

The years of birth and the places of birth are consistent with other known records.

Notes:

  • Hanna's month of birth is consistent with other records.
  • The months of the births of Gertrude and Henry are not correct.

407 Fourth Street was the address given when Frederic Kettler was discharged from the Brooklyn Orphans Asylum in October 1901.


Hannah Jensen as a Sponsor 1907

Hanna Jensen was one of the sponsors at the baptism of Dorothy Blanck, the daughter of Louis Blanck and Gertrude Kettler, in 1907.

It was relatively common in the German American community to have multiple sponsors. Frequently grandparents acted as sponsors.


Hanna Peter/Peterson and Johannus Jensen in the 1910 Census in New Jersey

Hannah Peters/Petersen and Johannus Jensen were listed in the 1910 Federal Census in New Jersey at 108 Fourth Street, Hoboken as follows:

  • Johannus Jensen, head, age 42, married 12 years, second marriage, born in Denmark, immigrated 1892, naturalized, longshoreman, dock
  • Hannah, age 47, 2nd marriage, married 12 years, mother of 4 children, 4 children still living, born Norway, immigrated in 1894, no occupation.

They both indicated that they could speak English

Hanna did NOT immigrated in 1894. She was in the US by the birth of her daughter, Marie in 1886.

In the 1910 census Hanna's children, Gertrude Kettler Blanck, Fritz Kettler and Henry Kettler, and John's son, Herman Jensen were listed with Gertrude's husband, Louis Blanck, in Hoboken. See Louie Blanck


Hannah Peter/Petersen and Johannus Jensen in the 1915 State Census in New Jersey

John Jensen and Hannah Peter Kettler Jensen were listed as renting at 609 Park Avenue Hoboken as follows:

  • Jensen, John, March 1867, age 48, born Denmark, in US 21 years, naturalized, labourer
  • Jensen, Hannah, July 1866, age 49, born Norway


Hannah Peter/Petersen and Johannus Jensen in the 1920 Census in New Jersey

Hannah Peters/Petersen and Johannus Jensen were listed in the 1920 Federal Census in New Jersey at 325 Bloomfield Street, Hoboken as follows:

  • Johannus Jensen, head, age 52, immigrated 1889, naturalized 1896, born Denmark, labourer longshore
  • Hannah, wife, age 53, immigrated 1885, naturalized 1896, born Norway, no occupation

Hannah did not marry Johann Jensen until 1898. Fritz Kettler died in 1896. So Hannah was not naturalized with Johann Jensen.

Johannus Jensen's son, Herman, was not listed in New Jersey in the 1920 census.

Note: A search for Hannah and Johannus Jensen on Ancestry.com does not show this result.


Hannah Peter/Petersen Jensen in the 1930 Census in New Jersey

Not listed


Discrepancies With The Censuses

Naturalization

  • 1900-Johannus listed as an "alien"
  • 1910-Johannnus listed as "Naturalized"
  • 1920-Johannus listed as "Naturalized in 1896"

Immigration of Johannus

  • 1900-1892
  • 1910-1890
  • 1920-1889
Note: He had to have immigrated by 1892 when Herman was born in New Jersey.

Immigration of Hanna

  • 1900-1894
  • 1910-1890
  • 1920-1885

Note: She had to have immigrated by 1886 when Maria was born in Brooklyn


Question About The Censuses

In 1910 it indicates that Hanna was the mother of 4 children and that 4 children were still living. Was his true? Mary, her daughter with Fritz Kettler was last listed in 1895 in the state census. She would have been 14 in 1900. Was she the person listed as Mannie? If so the month of birth is wrong. Mary Kettler was born in February 1886.


Death of John Jensen 1927

John Jensen, 23_ Grand Street, Hoboken, married, wife, Hannah, date of birth, March 23, 1866, age 61 years, 8 months, and 6 days, occupation, longshoreman, born Denmark, father, "cannot learn", born Denmark, mother, "cannot learn", born, Denmark, died at 3 AM, December 9, 1927, of lobar pneumonia, attended by physician from December 7, last seen December 8, informant, Hannah Jensen, buried, Flower Hill Cemetery, Hudson County


Hannah in the 1930 Census

I did not find her.


Death of Hanna Peter/Peterson Kettler Jensen, 1933

Hannah Jensen of 604 Newark Street, Hoboken, widowed, husband, John Jensen, date of birth, July 10, 1866, age 66 years, 5 months, and 25 days, occupation, housework, born Norway, father, "cannot ascertain", born, Norway, mother, "cannot ascertain", born, Norway, died at St Mary's Hospital at 6:40 PM, January 4, 1933, of cardiac failure and pulmonary edema, seen by physician from October 21, 1932 to January 4, 1933, contributory causes, fracture left hip 5 years ago, fall six years ago, informant, Fred Kettler, 1102 Washington Street, Hoboken, buried Flower Hill Cemetery, Hudson County, January 7, 1933.

A correction was made by Fred Kettler, 1102 Washington Street, Hoboken, on January 9, 1933 to change the age at death from 66 to 69 years. Note: Very few changes were made to the death records. Why did Fred Kettler feel compelled to go back and change the age at death?

The original age at death was in keeping with the birth date listed on the death certificate. The change of age suggests a birth year of 1863/64.

Note: At Hannah's death in 1933 her grandson John was 18 years old. His sister, Etta, was 28. Surely they knew their grandmother who lived in the same city as they did. Whenever I asked John about his family his stock replies were: I was "too nosy" and who cared "they were all dead". My husband and his brother had no clue they had a Norwegian ancestor until I unearthed that fact around the year 2000.

Here is an interesting hint: Our youngest son married a woman whose grandmother is Norwegian. On an occasion of celebration our daughter-in-law, her mother and grandmother started a traditional Norwegian toast: Din skol, min skol, alla backa flicka skol [Here's to you, here's to me, here's to all the pretty girls]. At about the second word my husband joined them. I was flabbergasted. "How did you know that toast?" I asked. He just shrugged and said he didn't know how he knew it. I bet he heard it from his father.


Grave of Hanna Peters Kettler Jensen and John Jensen

"Hannah" Jensen and John Jensen are buried in grave no. 45 row no. 15 block no. Q in the Flower Hill Cemetery, 5433 Kennedy Blvd, North Bergen, New Jersey. There is no grave marker. The red arrow show the approximated location of the grave. Section Q is at the bottom of the hill just inside the Tonelle Ave entrance to the cemetery.

Naming Patterns in Norway

Naming patterns in Norway did not include a set surname. Sons received a surname that was a combination of their father's first name plus the designation "son". Thus Peter the son of Peter became Peter Peterson or Petersen. A daughter of Peter would receive the designation for "daughter". This naming pattern was in flux around the birth of Hanna and in the last decades of the 19th century the patronym practice was changed. I have found several examples of Norwegians living in Brooklyn who were born around the same time as Hannah who were named using the old pattern.


The Norwegian Population in Red Hook, Brooklyn and Hoboken, New Jersey

The transition from sail to steam precipitated a decline in the shipping industry in Norway. At the same time, the New York shipping business was bustling. Many Norwegian sailors jumped ship in New York and stayed. As the maritime crisis in Norway continued ship builders and others related to the trade immigrated to New York. This maritime crisis in Norway was perhaps the most significant factor in the Norwegian settlement of Brooklyn. Most of the Norwegians who settled in the New York area were connected in some way to the shipping industry. Between the 1870s and 1910 the Norwegian population of the New York area increased dramatically.

Red Hook was one of the centers in Brooklyn settled by the Norwegians and other Scandinavians. One of the major sources of employment for the Norwegians in Red Hook was the Atlantic Docks and Ship Basin located between Hamilton Avenue on the north and Pioneer Street on the south.

The population of this areas of Brooklyn was extremely mobile, with a high turnover rate. Many of them drifted in and out without being counted in official records. Until the mid 1880 transient seamen greatly outnumbered settled families in the area.

Gradually many of them married and settled down the Norwegian population spread out into other sections of Brooklyn.

At the same time there was a population of Norwegians in Greenpoint, Brooklyn and in Hoboken, New Jersey, two other New York area shipping centers.

The first records for Hanna were in Red Hook. Subsequent records were in Hoboken. It seems possible that whatever family she had in the US were also associated with Red Hook or Hoboken.


Possible Family of Hanna Peters/Petersen in America

The majority of the early Norwegian immigrants in Brooklyn were sailors who had jumped ship. This, of course, would not apply to Hannah. Hannah most likely came into the US either with or under the sponsorship of some male family member. Unaccompanied females were not permitted entry until a male sponsor vouched for them. There had to be a male sponsor somewhere. It could have been a father, brother, brother-in-law, uncle, godfather, first husband, etc. A key is to find who Hannah's sponsor was?

If she was living in Red Hook before her marriage to Fritz Kettler she most likely was living with other family members or friends. Red Hook was a working dock area filled with sailors, longshoreman and single men. It was potentially a dangerous place of an unaccompanied female.

In the 1870s many Norwegians settled in Old South Brooklyn in order to be near the Red Hook Docks.

The first Norwegian community which has an unbroken connection with the present one was located about 1830 in the area now bounded by the Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge, and the East River. At that time, along this section of Manhattan were located docks where ships from all parts of the world loaded and unloaded and here were also located the only large dry- docks in New York, capable of repairing large ocean-going vessels The Norwegians living in New York found the journey by horsecar and ferry tedious and time-consuming. They soon began to settle in Red Hook and the next Norwegian settlement developed in the area immediately adjacent to and north of Red Hook, where a small group of Norwegians settled in 1850. By 1870 the invasion of Brooklyn was gathering speed. A horsecar, traveling along South Street in Manhattan, took Norwegian ship workers to Whitehall. Here they boarded the Hamilton Ferry to Hamilton Avenue, Brooklyn. Between 1870 and 1910, Hamilton Avenue became the most Norwegian street in Brooklyn and New York. The colony developed to the north of Hamilton Avenue. The churches moved over from New York and new churches were established. In the Nineties, this section was one of large beautiful homes and tree-shaded streets. The section became better as one went north and became very exclusive at Brooklyn Heights where the grand old families lived.

Note: This paragraph appears to have been originally from a paper written in 1949 by Frank Hamilton Hankins but it also appears under other authors in the 1960s and later.

Peters/Petersens from Norway were very common. There were tons of Peters/Petersens in both Brooklyn and Hoboken.

The only known possible relative of Hanna in America was Levise (Lovise) Petersen who was a witness at Hanna's marriage to Johannus Jensen in 1898. Levise was most likely either Hanna's sister or sister-in-law. I cannot find any records for Levise other than as the witness to Hanna's second marriage

1900 Census: 103 Liquer Street , Peter Pettersen, head, born June 1863, age 46, married at age 25, immigrated 1882, naturalized, ship carpenter, Gerena, wife, May 1855, age 45, 10 children 6 still living, immigrated 1883, Charles son June 1889, age 21, Namie (?) daughter Oct 1889 age 10, Peter son January 1892, Bergia, son, December 1893, age 6, Otto son Nov 1898, Agusta son May 1900, 6 mo. The ages and dates of births do not match. Peter and Garena were born in Norway. All the children were born in New York.

1910 Peter Petersen Van Brundt Street, boarder, age 18, born Norway, labourer, mud dredger.

1910 Clinton Street Charles Petersen lodger, age 22, immigrated 1906, house carpenter,

Can't really find anything certain.


Can This be Hannah?

The records indicate that Hannah's father was Peter and her mother was Maren.

There were 42 Hannah Pederdatters born in Norway to Peter and Maren combination between 1809 and the 1870s and 26 between 1858 and 1868 (plus three Johannas) as listed by LDS.

Most of these records can be ignored for one reason or another. There is also, of course, the possibility that the birth of Hanna Pederdatter is not listed by LDS.

  1. Hanna Marie Petersen, 15 June, 1862, baptized Stokke, Vestfold, Norway, to Peder Peterson and Maren Christophersdr, LDS film 278252

    The date of baptism is okay.

    Peter Petersen, Gender: Male, Birth Date: 27 jun 1851, Baptism Date: 13 jul 1851, Baptism Place: Sandar, Vestfold, Norway, Father: Peter Petersen , Mother: Maren Christophersdatter , FHL Film Number: 278244, Reference ID: BK6 P39 CN27

    Jorgen Petersen, Gender: Male, Birth Date: 31 jul 1853, Baptism Date: 26 des 1853 (26 Dec 1853), Baptism Place: Sandar, Vestfold, Norway, Father: Peter Petersen , Mother: Maren Christophersdatter, FHL Film Number: 278244, Reference ID: BK6 P66 CN83

  2. Hanna Pederdatter born July 10, 1863, Moss, Ostfold, Norway could be Hannah. She has the right date of birth and the comes from a possible good town as Moss is a costal town about 60 km south of Oslo on the east side of the Oslofjord.

    I am assuming that the family had something to do with shipping and came from a seaport town because most of the Norwegians who settled in Brooklyn were supposed to have been connected with shipping.

    The genealogy as availabe through LDS is as follows:

    Jacob Peterson (c 1796 - ?) and Sidsel Maria Jensdatter

    Birth: Circa 1796 (LDS submission). Son of Peter, based on his name at marriage. There are several possibilities listed by LDS

    Marriage: Jacob Petersen married Sidsel Maria Jensdatter 24 Nov. 1822, Moss, Ostfold, Norway. IGI extracted record.

    Children:

    1. Peter Christian Jacobson 1822

      Birth: Peter Christian Jacobson, 12 OCT 1822, Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Christening: same day: Peter Christian Jacobsen was born 12 October 1822 and baptized son of Jacob Petersen and Sidsel Maria Jensdatter

      Marriage: 01 JAN 1849, Moss, Ostfold, Norway to Maren Sophie Jacobsdatter

      Death of Peter Christian Jacobson: 25 NOV 1875

      Information on Sidsel Maria Jensdatter:

      Birth: 03 JUL 1828, Drobak, Akershus, Norway, Father: Jacob Madsen, Mother: Maria Olsdatter

      Death: 04 JUL 1867

      Children:
      1. Julie Cecilie Petersdatter born 07 DEC 1848 Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Father: PETER CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN, Mother: MAREN SOPHIE JACOBSDR, Source Call No.: C424673
        Marriage: Julia Cecilie Petersdatter born 7 Dec 1848 Moss, Ostfold, Norway married Johan Toger Olsen about 1875 Ostfold Norway IGI LDS submission.
        Children: According to the IGI they had seven children born in Fredrikstad, Ostfold between 1875 and 1896
      2. Christian Martin Petersen born 12 SEP 1850 Moss, Ostfold, Norway
      3. HENRIETTE MARIE PEDERSEN, Birth: 30 OCT 1852 Christening: 12 DEC 1852 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: PETER CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN Mother: MAREN SOPHIE JACOBSDR Source Call No.: C424673
        Other records from IGI: No marriage for Henrietta Marie.
      4. Jacob Edvard Petersen born 15 JUL 1855 Moss, Ostfold, Norway
        Death: 23 AUG 1857 IGI LDS Submission
      5. JACOB MADS PEDERSEN Birth: 11 JUL 1858 Christening: 22 AUG 1858 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: PEDER CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN Mother: MAREN SOPHIE JACOBSDR Source Call No.: C424673
        Further IGI Records: No marriage for Jacob in the right time frame.
      6. JOHAN OLUF PEDERSEN Birth: 25 OCT 1860 Christening: 17 MAR 1861 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: PETER CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN Mother: MAREN SOPHIE JACOBSDR Source Call No.: C424673
        Further IGI Records: No marriage for Johan Oluf there was a marriage for Johan Anton in the right time frame.
      7. Hanna Oline Petersdatter
        HANNA OLINE PEDERSEN Birth: 10 JUL 1863 Christening: 16 AUG 1863 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Parents: Father: PETER CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN Mother: MAREN SOPHIE JACOBSDR C424673
        Further IGI Records: No marriage on the IGI
      8. PETER MARINIUS PEDERSEN Birth: 08 AUG 1865 Christening: 17 SEP 1865 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: PETER CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN Mother: MAREN SOPHIE JACOBSDR Source Call No.: C424673
        Further IGI Records: No marriage for Peter Marius there was a marriage for Peter Anton in the right time frame.

    2. KAREN JULIE JACOBSEN born 09 MAY 1824 Christening: 09 MAY 1824 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: JACOB PEDERSEN, Mother: SIDSEL MARIE JENS DR

    3. ANNE KATRINE JACOBSEN born 29 DEC 1825 Christening: 29 JAN 1826 Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN, Family Mother: SIDSEL MARIA JENS DR

    4. ANNE KATRINE JACOBSEN born 18 OCT 1827 Christening: 28 OCT 1827 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: JACOB PEDERSEN, Family Mother: SIDZEL MAREN JENS DR

    5. JACOBSEN, Female born 04 APR 1829 Moss, Ostfold, Norway
      Death: 04 APR 1829, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN, Family Mother: SIDSEL MARIA JENS DR

    6. JUST MARTHIN JACOBSEN, Male born 27 MAR 1830 Christening: 04 JUL 1830 Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN, Mother: SIDSEL MARIA JENS DR

    7. JACOBSEN, Female, born 26 FEB 1833 Moss, Ostfold, Norway
      Death: 26 FEB 1833, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN Mother: SIDSEL MARIA JENS DR

    8. HANS CHRISTIAN JACOBSEN born 13 AUG 1834 Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Father: JACOB PEDERSEN, Mother: SIDSEL MARIA JENS DR

    9. JULIE JACOBSEN born 16 JAN 1837 Christening: 02 APR 1837 Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN Mother: SIDSEL MARIE JENS DR

    10. JOHAN JACOBSEN, Male, born 11 DEC 1838 Christening: 14 APR 1839 Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN Mother: SIDSEL MARIE JENS DR

    11. MAREN CHRISTINE JACOBSEN Female, born 14 NOV 1841 Christening: 27 FEB 1842 Moss, Ostfold, Norway, Father: JACOB PEDERSEN Mother: SIDSEL MARIE JENS DR

    More on Sidsel Maria Jensen:
    SIDSEL MARIA JENSEN Female Event(s): Birth: 01 APR 1788 Christening: 13 APR 1788 Moss, Ostfold, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JENS TOLLEFSEN Family Mother: GURI CHRISTOPHERSDR
    Notes:
    • This family has been researched at least in part by a LDS member who followed it back several generations and who was clearly interested in Julie Cecilie born in 1848.
    • Only three marriages listed by IGI in batch 7507211 (1870s and 1880s) for Moss, Ostfold, Norway for Petersen or Petersdatter all submitted by LDS member. There does not appear to have been an extraction from the church records.
    • Can't find any of them with certainty in the US censuses
    • NO LOVICE PETERSEN in this family: Lovice was the only known connection to Hannh in the US.

  3. Another possibility is Hanna born February 1854 Kvernes, More Og Romsdal, Norway

    Peter Johnson and Maren Torgersdr

    Birth:

    Marriage: PEDER JOHNSEN married MAREN TORGERSDR, 29 DEC 1850, Kvernes, More Og Romsdal, Norway

    Children:

    1. ELISABET ANNA PEDERSEN, Birth: 21 FEB 1851 Christening: 18 APR 1851, Kvernes, More Og Romsdal, Norway, Father: PEDER JOHNSEN, Mother: MAREN TORJERSDR
    2. JOHANNA PEDERSEN Birth: 12 FEB 1854, Christening: 14 APR 1854, Kvernes, More Og Romsdal, Norway, Father: PEDER JOHNSEN, Mother: MAREN TORGERSDR

    3. HANNA CAROLINE PEDERSEN, Birth: 12 JUN 1864, Christening: 10 JUL 1864 Kvernes, More Og Romsdal, Norway, Father: PEDER JOHNSEN, Mother: MAREN TORGERSDR

      No marriage listed on IGI

    Source Information: LDS batch #C420113 Norway

    Notes:

    • The christening date is the date listed as the birth date of Hanna.
    • Kvernes is situated on a bay on the west coast of Norway.
    • NO LOVICE PETERSEN in this family: Lovice was the only known connection to Hannh in the US.

Can This be Hannah?

Doing a search for Lovise Petersen in the 1865 Norwegian Census shows that there were 6 listings for Lovise Petersen. Searching for Hanna/Hannah did not show anything of interest. Searching for Johanna Petersen in the 1865 census shows 5 listings. In three of them the birth year is too far off to be my Johanna. One Johanna Petersen born Throndhjem is not listed with any other Petersens. The following listing for both Lovise and Johanna fits the bill except the father's name is Johan NOT Peter. Name of farm, Mollehougen.

  • Johan Petersen lodger, "malermester" born 1827
  • Marie Lovise Peters* wife born 1826
  • Martin Petersen, son seaman, born 1849
  • Lovise Petersen, daughter born 1858
  • Johanna Petersen, daughter born 1859
  • Johan Petersen, son born 1861
  • Anne Petersen, daughter, born 1865

Notes:

  • NONE of them show up in the 1875 Norwegian Census.
  • The gap of 9 years between Martin and Lovise; There may have been other children
  • A Maren Petersen search does not bring up any real possibilities.
  • A Peter Petersen search brings up tons of listings.
  • THE BIG PROBLEM I do not know if Lovise was a sister, sister-in law or even just another person with the surname Petersen.
  • One of the other 1865 Norwegina census listings for Lovise Petersen born circa 1859 Tunoe had mother, Maren, and father, Peter. However, there was not Johanna/Hanna in the family.
  • The major points of immigration for the Norwegian community in Brooklyn in 1904 were: Bergen, Kristiansand and Trondheim

The only record I have found in Brooklyn that may be related is a record for an unknown reason at the Norwegian Seaman's Church:

80. 5-8 6-11 Soveig Marie Petersen, parents "bybud" Peter Ingvald Pederson and Maren Lovise Jakobsen "Mellem Bokeli 22, 1866. 1878 Witnesses T (or F) oraldrene" small word I cannot read, Gunelie(/) Hem. Tjollig (?) skibst--- and Hans K (?) Jakobsen. The corner of the page is dated 1910.


Possible Church Records in Brooklyn

There were several congregations that serviced the Norwegian population of Brooklyn:

  1. The Nowegian Seaman's Church (1878)

    I looked at these records and did not find Hannah/Johanna Petersen's marriage to Fritz Kettler

  2. Bethelship Norwegian Methodist Church in Red Hook(1874)

  3. Bethany Norwegian Lutheran

  4. Our Savior's Norwegian Lutheran

  5. Unknown church on Henry Street ???

  6. Trinity Lutheran (1890)

    Erik Sorensen informed me in July 2008 the available records for Trinity Lutheran begin in the year 1890 at which point the church was located on 27th Street in Sunset Park/Bay Ridge ..... as he said, "a good distance from Red Hook".


Norwegians in Brooklyn in General

According to David C Mauk in "The Colony That Rose From the Sea", in 1904 the major ports of departure from Norway to Brooklyn were from Kristiansand, Bergen and Trondheim. However, he notes that there was a predominance of Norwegians were from southern Norway.

The first major wave of Norwegian immigration to the United States was between 1866-1873. These immigrants were mostly family members and arrived in New York only to pass on to the Midwest.

A massive immigration started in 1880 and the Norwegian colony in Brooklyn dramatically increased in size.

Chain migration should be kept in mind. People went were they already knew others from the same area in the old county. The big question is "Who did Hannah Petersen know?"

In Norwegian Newspapers in America: Connecting Norway and the New Land Odd S. Lovoll says;

From the 1880s the permanent Norwegian population increased substantially;"
He adds that the Norwegian colony in Brooklyn
"was dominated by immigrants from Agder on the Southern coast of Norway and Rogaland, the southernmost county on the west coast.
In 1890 there were 8,602 Norwegian born residence of New York State.

Possible Census Records in Brooklyn

There are no possible listings in Brooklyn in the 1870 or 1880 census under Pettersen, Petersen, or Pedersen.


For more information on Fritz Kettler, see Fritz Kettler

For more information on Gertrude Kettler, the daughter of Hanna and Fritz Kettler see Gertrude Kettler Blanck

For more information on Hoboken, see Hoboken

For more information on Brooklyn, see Brooklyn

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